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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17  Posts: 161/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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Originally posted by Arwon Are you gonna be one of those parents that gives their kids "time out"? Why the hell shouldn't people suffer for things they've done wrong? Do you really think that any reasonable percentage of people reform after being taken aside for a couple years, and put into uncomfortable living conditions? Personally, the worse the punishment that I'd expect as a result, the longer I reconsider, and I'm 99% sure I'm not the only one who thinks this way. If I had nothing going for me, and REALLY wanted some fucker dead, and my only risk was about 3 years in the current prison system, fuck yeah I'd risk it. Now if it were 5 years of actual punishment, I'd reconsider. This isn't some ex-post-facto (after the fact) BS, it's not like "hey, I've changed my mind on how I'm gonna punish you". It's about giving future criminals a reason NOT to do bad things to other people, they know what they're doing, they know it's wrong, they know what the result will be. Lemme give you guys a little insight on a non-lifer. My dad did about three years in Folsom prison (this is supposed to be one of the toughest ones) for drug trafficking back in the early nineties. He had a great fuckin' time. He talks about his time in "the pen" more than he talks about his trip to hawaii. He learned how to make cocaine himself, among many other criminal trades, if he had chosen to, he could have come out a much better drug trafficker, but the court ordered him to move to a place where doing that was hardly an option (Palmdale, it's a desert city). He stopped (for the most part) on his own because he tends to miss people, and my mom can be a very frightening person to deal with. I should also mention that he had nooooo trouble getting his hands on some mary jane whilst in there. This compassionate bullshit is doing nothing but hurting innocent people. Punishment does two things: Sets an example for future possible criminals Provides a reality of concequence for the commiter of the crime It should of course, be reasonable, and not over the top torture, but there are ways to maintain some sort of dignity in the treatment of the criminally minded, without basically pampering them. Oh yeah, butt-fuckin' in the shower room thing hasn't been an issue for years, they use seperate stalls, OZ is full of crap. (edited by Zer0wned on 09-28-05 05:30 PM) |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17 Posts: 162/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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I installed last night, and I've come up with four questions for now... Most of the other stuff I've needed so far I've figured out one way or another, but a few things I can't seem to find  ...I should note that I'm using SuSE 9.1, the 32 bit version, I think. I am familiar with windows/DOS based commands, so if you find it convenient to draw parallels to windows commands, I'll be able to follow. #1- What the HELL is the X server, and how do I 'exit' it? I was trying to install a nvidia graphics driver, and got this: ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing. For further details, please see the section INSTALLING THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com. ( ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7676/README.txt that's the readme, but I'm totally unfamiliar with linux, so I don't know what it's talking about) #2- How do I make a screenshot? #3- How do I setup firefox (or pretty much any program for that matter) so that I'll be able to put it in the taskbar? #4- lastly, how do I run equivalents to Defrag and Checkdisk/scandisk? |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17 Posts: 163/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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Originally posted by Nebetsu #2 - KSnapshot, I believe. Unless you use Gnome. Then you can go die. (j/k. Still... don't use gnome.) Yup, that worked, and read the first post, I'm using SuSE =P, I tried gnome on a live disk, looked like it was trying to be windows ... Didn't quite appeal to me. There any convenient key combinations I can use to make a screenshot onto a clipboard for later pasting, like in windows? (for use in full screen applications/games)#3 - YAST. Search for it. Select it. Hit "Apply Changes" or something to that effect. YAST ended up finding firefox ver. .8, I ended up having to decompress and run it manually tar -xzvf firefox-1.0.7.installer.tar.gz cd firefox-installer ./firefox-installer ^^^something like that #4 - You don't NEED to defrag. Linux ACTUALLY puts things back where it finds it. Unlike OTHER operating systems. Scandisk automatically happens approximately every 20 - 30 mounts. Mount is when you have the operating system recognise the drive. It probably would be 20 - 30 bootups. Sweet on the defrag part, but I'm a little dissappointed on the scandisk part, because I leave my computer on most of the time, with my usual uptime, I'd get maybe 2 scandisks a year at that rate. Are you sure there's no way to force it? I'm a bit of a control freak when it comes to managing my disks =P. (BTW, could the mods keep this open? More than likely I'm going to have more questions later) |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17 Posts: 164/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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| And what's with the assumption that anything more than a small minority in prisons are "murderers and serial killers and OTHER EVIL PEOPLE"? THe vast, vast majority are people caught with a joint, petty thieves, tax evaders, people who got into a drunken fist-fight, and so forth. Hardly evil people who deserve to be robbed of all fucking petty little pleasures because a few whiney moralistic cranks outside the walls say they should be made to suffer more. I'm talking about prison, not jail. You don't get time in a penitentiary for dickin around a little. You get time in the pen for "messing up" a little, but consistantly, doing some BIG time tax evasion or other similar money crimes (insider trading, money laundering), in which case they're probably WELL aware of the possible concequences, and most likely don't need to do it anyway, and you get time for doing something that probably hurt someone else, or serveral other people in a very direct and deliberate way. Yes, of course there should be a line to be drawn. But likewise with a limit in the direction of harshness, there needs to be a limit on leniance as well. It is my belief that the current balance of mercy is a little too high, and needs to be tweaked, some, no extremes need be made. As for my stance on the death penalty, I hate to say it, but I'm against things that are cost inneffective, and don't think it should be a common implementation for any case until the price tag can be brought down. As for the concept, however, some people cannot be corrected, and other times refuse to be. Nothing wrong with cleaning the herd. |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17 Posts: 165/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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| Funny, KDE is usually the one said to be a copy-cat of Windows, and GNOME a copy-cat of Macintosh Well, I was using the newest live release of GNOME (2.12 at the time of this post), mayhaps they were trying to make it more "user friendly" by making it more windows-like? The version I'm using (SuSE, which I guess is KDE? I'm a little lost here  ) doesn't bear much resemblance to windows, aside from the the buttons on the windows, and limited support for various windows hotkeys/key combinations. Then again I'm barely familiar with anything outside of windows and DOS, so I'm not one to make comparisons.For your answer to number one, I'm pretty sure I know exactly what you're talking about, I get a primary boot screen that prompts me either windows (which goes to another asking me for XP or ME), linux GUI, or the failsafe. For your answer to number 4, How can I check what file format I'm in, or what's the standard for SuSE linux? I'm pretty sure it's not FAT, FAT32, or NTFS, because I can't see it in windows. So, can I use this live CD of knoppix I have to run fsck on the volume I have SuSE on...? is that what you're saying? thanks for the input. |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17 Posts: 166/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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| I think I can answer that for him. (just guessing, of course, not trying to answer for the guy) Because he can/For the hell of it/For arguement's sake. You totally missed his point anyway, I find it annoying when people pick the sentence they find convenient, and use that against you, instead of the main point. Originally posted by The SomerZ "And, also, you people do realize that you're discussing the lives of other human beings, and the financial benefits of ending such lives. You should be ashamed of yourselves." I started the topic, I feel absolutely no shame of it. I could just as easily say you should be ashamed of yourself for using shame tactics. Seriously though, individual human life is extremely overrated. You've gotta see the forest from the trees sometimes. If you have to chop down one infected tree in order to save some of the surrounding, you've done a bad thing for a good reason, that's what the basis of execution is. Execution has been abused throughout history, but pain medication regularly is abused too, that mean we're just going to stop making pain medication? The core reasoning behind it, the practically genetic urge for this final form of "justice" (in quotes because that's highly debatable, and I seriously don't want to have to read anything in regards to that right now  ) is about cleaning the herd, "chopping down" dangers within society. The whole "just stick them in there for the rest of their life" alternative is flawed, a criminal mind crazy enough to want to be killed by his/her peers, in place to gain respect and influence in jail, pass on what they've learned to future inmates? Let me tell you a little story about something that's happened in California. Several gang leaders from major gangs in california were incarcerated for life. They were fairly isolated from the rest of the prison, but OOPS, their exercise rooms were in some way linked by the piping systems, so they could still talk to each other. The result? The more simple thug-like runnings from before became much more organised in the case of all of those gangs, and began branching out. Wouldn't have happened if we'd just killed em, eh? Although that's an isolated case, and some instances do actually happen where a lifer learns more about life, and uses gained respect to preach the futilities of evil. Likewise for each good lifer, there's likely to be one on the opposite of the spectrum, teaching his new friends how to do what they did again, but better when they're free. My point here, life imprisonment isn't exactly the end-all substitute for execution. |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17 Posts: 167/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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| Alright, so here's an exagerrated version of what I've gathered from various people: "I don't hate the world -- the world hasn't done anything wrong; the world is perfect. It's the humans inhabiting the world that're fucked up." "My body is fine, BUT MY SHINS ARE BROKEN." Seriously, WTF? Humans are a product and a part of the world, if they're not perfect, the world isn't... Just as if the rest of your body is fine, but if your shins, being a part of your body, are broken, therefore your body isn't fine. Ziff's quote on the other hand, made a lot more sense to me. It seemed like a take on a "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" perspective. Perfection is a human concept (a flimsy one at that), one could say that occurances and existance in itself are inherently perfect, and that the only reason it's not considered to be perfect is because of the perceptions and expectations placed upon it. Then again, this kind of moots itself, because it's using that same system of perceptions and expectations upon existance and occurances (perfection, that is).*deleted text (no more posting when I'm super tired )*EDIT: there, better? (edited by Zer0wned on 09-30-05 01:19 PM) (edited by Zer0wned on 09-30-05 01:34 PM) (edited by Zer0wned on 09-30-05 01:38 PM) |
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Meh, I did that at like 1 in the morning, I was gonna delete it just now, but it would make your post seem oddly out of context. but the "body is fine, shins are broken" thing I stick by  seriously, that quote from slay made no sense.Let's see where my mind was at the time... The bulleted text was a slightly exagerrated impression that I've been getting on a few points that have been getting made by the pacifist opposition that I don't make any sense to me, exagerrated, but still within their reasoning. Maybe not the reasoning of any one person, but more of a compilation. The question is what made me want to delete the post, I'll admit that was a bit off-topic. It was a poorly done, overly specific example. As for the focus on psychotic murderers, I think there's a tendancy to not specify one's specific topic, prison systems or death sentences, this thread was intended to cover both. Just a guess. So I'm gonna edit that previous post so it makes a little more sense, and delete that question .(edited by Zer0wned on 09-30-05 01:19 PM) |
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| I wasn't 100% sure as to where this belonged, if anywhere. (If a mod moves this to a more suitable locale, could you please PM me as to where it was moved?) The wait is finally over, I'm going into boot camp like, the day after tomorrow, and today is probably the last day I'll be online. The time I should be gone is roughly two months, but there's a chance that I'll be put on a boat right after I'm done, so it could be longer. I guess you guys don't know me all to well, and I'm not all that popular, or probably even all that liked for that matter. I just figured it'd be rude to some degree if I just up and left without indication. "Keep it smoooth." -Zer0wned |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17 Posts: 170/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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| It's for the coast guard, I forgot to mention that. And despite my seemingly violent views, I'm actually quite a bit of a pacifist when it comes to my own affairs (except in direct self defense, I've broken a muggers' teeth before  ). I'm going into the military in the first place because I was screwed pretty badly on one business venture ($1500 on a cook's salary T_T), and was pretty much screwed on bills. Six years in the military looks good on a resume, especially with the provided training (computers and electronics, for me). Not to mention $2900 a month starting out ain't bad.I chose coast guard specifically because quite frankly, I don't even want to make the choice as to whether or not I'm for or against the war, or any future war(s). Politics have failed to genuinely concern me, they still don't. Although I take place in debates for the mental stimuli. For those of you that don't know, the coast guard isn't even owned by the department of defense, they were owned by the department of treasury, then department of transportation, and now homeland defense. Law enforcement (which the coast guard is basically a nautical version of) holds a lot less questionable ethics behind it, especially since we're just saving people and stopping drug runners (well, the immigrant thing holds some debatable issues, but I don't want to touch that here XD).@trapster: Is it like an astigmatism? Because I'm almost legally blind (20/400 vision), and they have no problem because my corrected vision compensates me to 20/20. Anyway, I'm a sick enough bastard that I got all excited looking at the boot camp videos. I was mentally like "Oh! Running! Pushups! I get to fire a Baretta!? Haha! they're gonna wake me up at 5! awesome!" I like training for some reason ... |
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| Oh, "corrected" generally refers to whatever method you use to make you see better. In my case, these schmecksay glasses. They do care, yeah, but about the vision you're using, not your natural vision. I think the airforce is one of the few that's really picky, and glasses won't fly (no pun intended) if you're trying to be a pilot. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17 Posts: 172/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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| If you exaggeratd everything anyone has ever said, then you'd have a false view of the world around you. Why don't you have a look through this topic and where I picked those out, you'll see how small the exaggeration is. Cutting out the religious points of this, I have little to say other than the only people to call for death of the condemned are small-minded. How exactly do the dead pay back society for their ills? Cutting out the religious bits of that is like taking the meat out of a meat sandwich, that set of statements and details of which were highly dependant on religion for the most part. I find it equally small minded to not even consider the whole opposing point that the un-repairable are better off removed to hold some form of at least semi-intelligent backing. Notice I failed to call you small minded for not agreeing with me. Not to mention that most of what you spoke of was on the topic of war, war is a little different than the justice system within a community. I see execution as a higher form of incarceration, removal of them and a removal of their living influence, preventing future incident by them via escape or by the simple passing of their knowledge and views to fellow inmates who will get out. Pay back society? Really now, people who serve life terms don't do any paying back to society, aside from maybe a little "scared straight" goodness, which I quite like the concept of, actually. If it wasn't so likely to be considered inhumane to put them to (mandatory), consistant work (lol chaingang) where they were of no danger to civilians, I'd totally drop my view on execution. Then again, it's not exactly fair to whoever's job they're taking. So what do you propose for the worst of the worst? The utterly hopelessly evil who will not or simply cannot become better, and will be willing to fake it as long as possible for freedom? With that and my pending departure I say that is probably the first topic I've ever encountered that I can easily say will never have an agreement or comprimise, that both sides can have absolutely no doubt in their mind on their point, and look like a complete fool to the opposition, no matter how civilized and understanding both parties may be. Figuring most, if not all of you were against execution, I decided to take the devil's advocacy here. As for my real stance, it's still non-existant. I was hoping to see if this would somehow aid me in genuinely picking a side, but as of yet I still haven't. All I've ended up seeing was highly opinionated, the conveyed opinions of others/quotes, attacks on small points, and philosophically fueled one-liners. No new facts, no interesting viewpoints, just me racking my brain against the rest of you, trying to bring across the point that there is some value and logic to the practice of execution, and alls I get is "killing is wrong, no," I was a little dissappointed. Oh well, fits one of my own philosophical one-liners "The moon won't dissapoint if you don't expect the world". I think I'm done here. (edited by Zer0wned on 09-30-05 10:48 PM) |
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Originally posted by SamuraiX Organ harvesting FTW! |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17 Posts: 174/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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Originally posted by Wurl 4.0 Who brainwashed you into believing that one? Unrealistic, regurgited, pity-squandering nonsense if you ask me. Poverty in America is becoming more and more of a result of bad choices than a circumstance. That whole "you can take me outta the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto outta me" type mindset is typical proof that those less fortunate aren't always unfortunate, they're more often just stupid and stubborn. Having spent a good deal of time both in poverty, and with those in poverty, I know what's going on first hand. People need to both swallow their pride and stop blaming everyone else for their problems. @leg I know, seriously, I mean, when's the last time you've heard of someone getting beaten to death when it wasn't like a full grown man on a little kid, or 5 on 1? Guns are rarely used fatally from more than like 5 feet, and people are rarely killed without weapons. I find this to be a highly disturbing trend. (edited by Zer0wned on 10-01-05 02:30 PM) |
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Zer0wned Cheep-cheep Level: 17 Posts: 175/181 EXP: 21472 For next: 3271 Since: 08-16-05 From: Hermosa Beach, CA Since last post: 30 days Last activity: 30 days |
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| Actually grey, I'm a little too aware of the attraction to those that are... a little too young in society's eyes. You see, 1 1/2 years ago, I realized that the age of the girls I was being attracted to wasn't exactly growing with my age. So I was faced with the decision as to whether or not I would embrace this attraction, or attempt to supress, deter, or rid myself of this potentially dangerous attraction. Considering the possible repurcussions (not just the legal ones, surprisingly), I decided I'd talk myself out of it. I'll admit, I'm still slightly attracted, that I'm okay with, acting upon those impulses is a little different, that I will not do. Let's just ignore my first post, I was tired and didn't really put much effort into that. Not to mention when I think pedophilia, I'm thinking the extremes. I mean pre-pubescent, not even two digits (aka age < 10). I figure after about 12 years old, it's society's call as far as I'm concerned. As for American law, it seems a bit ridiculous to me that there should be absolutely no show of dissapproval towards teenage pregnancy, which parents and the government should have some (despite how limited) right to protect themselves from, seeing as how it's most likely they'll have to care for the result. Notice that I'm not so much against the relationship, as I am against the possible risks involved. Namely the fiscal (under 18) and physical risks (puberty to ~14). In different countries, the legal working ages and views on women are different, and accordingly, as are the laws on sexual consent. Face it, Zero. We're being babied, and as a result we're raising a society where youth relationships are seen as "robbing the cradle", to use a fitting phrase. I still say let the fuckers have what they want, but now I think I'm going to mention that we're perfectly capable of becoming mature before we're allowed to exercise our responsibility. Trust me, I know this firsthand, I've been living on my own since I was 16. But, the people voting want us in school until we're 18, and don't want anyone knocked up until then. BS or not, we just gotta suck it up and deal with it. A common inability to face this as a fact of life shows the voters that we aren't as responsible as we say and think we are, seeing as how governed by our own sex drives we are. And uh, I had no idea that knuck was from brazil, nor that his age was 15. That changes things a lot, < j/k level=harmless> but now I'm just gonna laugh just at him as I would when I was 15, finding out that one of my friends of the same age got desperate and dated an 11 year old. < /jk> But seriously though, what is your age range, Knuck? We talking budding stage, or like, "I picked my girlfriend up from kindergarten,"? |
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2 pm tomorrow =P. I thought I was going to have to disassemble my computer sooner, but I guess not. But I leave for the hotel at that time. |
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Originally posted by knuck5~12 Holy schnikies! Well, good thing you're in Brazil, eh?
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Originally posted by Legion If you expect them to be like a military branch, then sure, I guess you could look at it that way. Look at them more like maritime law enforcement and search and rescue. The Coast Guard is the worst enemy of drug runners, and a boater's best friend. Originally posted by Wurl 4.0 Right, opium has every right to be shipped freely ... Screw saving people on boats too, because you know, it's their fault, whatever happened. Added to that... I'm going to be a computer/electronics technician, I've never heard of one of them getting shot at, and rarely anyone else in the Coast Guard for that matter (in comparison to dept. of defense based military and city/county based law enforcement).
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"The Coast Guard are sissies." |
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