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Posted on 09-29-05 02:25 AM Link | Quote
I installed last night, and I've come up with four questions for now... Most of the other stuff I've needed so far I've figured out one way or another, but a few things I can't seem to find ...

I should note that I'm using SuSE 9.1, the 32 bit version, I think. I am familiar with windows/DOS based commands, so if you find it convenient to draw parallels to windows commands, I'll be able to follow.


#1- What the HELL is the X server, and how do I 'exit' it? I was trying to install a nvidia graphics driver, and got this:
ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing. For further details, please see the section INSTALLING THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com.

( ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-7676/README.txt that's the readme, but I'm totally unfamiliar with linux, so I don't know what it's talking about)

#2- How do I make a screenshot?

#3- How do I setup firefox (or pretty much any program for that matter) so that I'll be able to put it in the taskbar?

#4- lastly, how do I run equivalents to Defrag and Checkdisk/scandisk?
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Posted on 09-29-05 02:39 AM Link | Quote
#2 - KSnapshot, I believe. Unless you use Gnome. Then you can go die. (j/k. Still... don't use gnome.)
#3 - YAST. Search for it. Select it. Hit "Apply Changes" or something to that effect. It will do the rest on it's own. (Havn't used it in a while, so I forget all it's terminology.)
#4 - You don't NEED to defrag. Linux ACTUALLY puts things back where it finds it. Unlike OTHER operating systems. Scandisk automatically happens approximately every 20 - 30 mounts. Mount is when you have the operating system recognise the drive. It probably would be 20 - 30 bootups.

I dunno how to solve your number one at the moment. Have fun!
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Posted on 09-29-05 05:02 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Nebetsu

#3 - YAST. Search for it. Select it. Hit "Apply Changes" or something to that effect. It will do the rest on it's own. (Havn't used it in a while, so I forget all it's terminology.)
#4 - You don't NEED to defrag. Linux ACTUALLY puts things back where it finds it. Unlike OTHER operating systems. Scandisk automatically happens approximately every 20 - 30 mounts. Mount is when you have the operating system recognise the drive. It probably would be 20 - 30 bootups.

I dunno how to solve your number one at the moment. Have fun!


#2 - KSnapshot, I believe. Unless you use Gnome. Then you can go die. (j/k. Still... don't use gnome.)
Yup, that worked, and read the first post, I'm using SuSE =P, I tried gnome on a live disk, looked like it was trying to be windows ... Didn't quite appeal to me. There any convenient key combinations I can use to make a screenshot onto a clipboard for later pasting, like in windows? (for use in full screen applications/games)

#3 - YAST. Search for it. Select it. Hit "Apply Changes" or something to that effect.
YAST ended up finding firefox ver. .8, I ended up having to decompress and run it manually
tar -xzvf firefox-1.0.7.installer.tar.gz
cd firefox-installer
./firefox-installer *runs setup*
^^^something like that

#4 - You don't NEED to defrag. Linux ACTUALLY puts things back where it finds it. Unlike OTHER operating systems. Scandisk automatically happens approximately every 20 - 30 mounts. Mount is when you have the operating system recognise the drive. It probably would be 20 - 30 bootups.
Sweet on the defrag part, but I'm a little dissappointed on the scandisk part, because I leave my computer on most of the time, with my usual uptime, I'd get maybe 2 scandisks a year at that rate. Are you sure there's no way to force it? I'm a bit of a control freak when it comes to managing my disks =P.

(BTW, could the mods keep this open? More than likely I'm going to have more questions later)
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Posted on 09-29-05 07:27 AM Link | Quote
Funny, KDE is usually the one said to be a copy-cat of Windows, and GNOME a copy-cat of Macintosh

for number one, the X Server (also known as X Window System, X-Windows, X11, X, etc) is basically the standard graphics system on most Unices. In SuSE, I think it uses KDM to log in graphically, so you'll need to look for a 'terminal' option while logging in, so it won't start X again once you log in (might be called 'failsafe terminal' or something else). If that fails, press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.

GNOME has its own screenshot program, too Oh, and if you want to use PrintScreen like Windows or Macintosh, read these instructions - it's for the technically-inclinded, so don't bother if you don't get any of it.

Number Four: The filesystems fragment just as well, unlike what Nebetsu said. In order to be efficient, a filesystem _must_ have the ability to fragment, otherwise you'll be waiting potentially hours for tasks involving files on the gigabytes scale. HOWEVER, most of the native filesystem drivers have built-in defragmentation routines that perform a small amount of defragmentation every five minutes. It's not much, but over time the system will sort out to mostly-defragmented. Hmm... the only local filesystems that I know of that do not defragment in Linux are FAT, NTFS (you can't write to it yet anyway), ISO 9660 (seriously, this is read-only on CDROMs), and UDF (read-only mainly for DVDs, since the ISO-9660 FS has an upper size limit of 4.0 GB).

And about the filesystem checks: you can run fsck manually, but never do it on a mounted filesystem or your root filesystem (unless you're on a LiveCD . . . ). Not only is the default for number of mounts till fsck is 30, but the default time since last check is 6 months.
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Posted on 09-29-05 01:07 PM Link | Quote
Funny, KDE is usually the one said to be a copy-cat of Windows, and GNOME a copy-cat of Macintosh
Well, I was using the newest live release of GNOME (2.12 at the time of this post), mayhaps they were trying to make it more "user friendly" by making it more windows-like? The version I'm using (SuSE, which I guess is KDE? I'm a little lost here ) doesn't bear much resemblance to windows, aside from the the buttons on the windows, and limited support for various windows hotkeys/key combinations. Then again I'm barely familiar with anything outside of windows and DOS, so I'm not one to make comparisons.

For your answer to number one, I'm pretty sure I know exactly what you're talking about, I get a primary boot screen that prompts me either windows (which goes to another asking me for XP or ME), linux GUI, or the failsafe.

For your answer to number 4, How can I check what file format I'm in, or what's the standard for SuSE linux? I'm pretty sure it's not FAT, FAT32, or NTFS, because I can't see it in windows.

So, can I use this live CD of knoppix I have to run fsck on the volume I have SuSE on...? is that what you're saying?

thanks for the input.
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Posted on 09-29-05 08:46 PM Link | Quote
You're most likely on ext3, but ReiserFS is getting popular, so that may be it...

In either case, don't run fsck if you're inside SuSE. Use Knoppix, for example, checking the first partition of the first hard disk would be fsck /dev/hda1. If it's on the first logical partition (in an extended): fsck /dev/hda5. And so on
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