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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44 Posts: 164/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by Chaos Force I don't remember anything saying you have to vote for either of these two dumb asses. You do know there's write in space, don't you? "But my vote is wasted if I don't vote for either of these two guys." That attitude is the reason why the current system is still in place. Vote for who you want to vote for, not two jackass clowns. Otherwise, the system will never change.... |
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The SomerZ Summer, yay! Level: 45 Posts: 541/862 EXP: 618182 For next: 41982 Since: 03-15-04 From: Norway Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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Actually, Lenophis, as long as America continiues using the Single-Member District Plurality Voting System, the only two realistic choices will be the Democratic and Republican nominees. Duverger's Law states this. Using a write-in vote to vote for someone else, and encouraging other people to do this, will not change the system (the best you can do is substitute one party with another, for example kick out the Democrats and enter the Greens. However, according to Duverger's Law, the SMDP Voting System ensures two-party states) (and, yes, I know there are exceptions to this law, but they are few and far in between). If you want to be able to cast a realistic vote for someone else than the Democratic or Republican nominee, you have to change the entire way the system of votes are counted. As for the debate, I had my alarm clock set to 3am, woke up, tried to get up from bed and turn on the TV, but fell asleep again, so I didn't get to see it. God damn timezones. |
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Darth Coby Vire Dacht je nou echt dat het over was? Dacht je nou echt dat ik gebroken was? Nee toch? Nou kijk eens goed op uit je ogen gast. zonder clic heb je geen kloten tjap... bitch Level: 55 Posts: 869/1371 EXP: 1240774 For next: 73415 Since: 03-15-04 From: Belgium Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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Poland is America's new #2 Ally? Pah! That made my day. |
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macks Level: 45 Posts: 412/900 EXP: 659955 For next: 209 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 22 hours |
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Anywheren I can see this online? And about the IRC thing, banning Drag seems like a joke gone too far. And about the Acmlm "community"; IRC: 80%, Board: 20%. If you're not on IRC, you are missing out |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 5211/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Eh, I would say it depends more on the day. ...right banning Drag for supporting Bush. Whatever if that was a joke or not it was too far... a kick would be enough. Did bush talk at all? I hadn't seen the debate (thought a small video clip from the debate is loading on my computer), and I couldn't get up in the middle of the night. If the world, or heck even just Sweden would decide. Kerry would win and Bush would fail... majorly. The rest of the world hates bush. (like in a voting done on aftonbladet.se, the Swedish readers could vote. Kerry was leading with 80%, and bush with just 10%...) |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 145/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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I obviously did not see the debate, but the general consensus seems to be either a Kerry win or a stalemate. Either way, that's very good for Kerry. Without 9/11 and terorrism and Iraq, Bush is basically nothing - he seems to constantly draw back to these things. If Kerry managed to hold his own on national security he's probably going to gain the ascendency from here on in. Bush hasn't been exposed so freely in public that much - scripted press conferences, weak reporters, staged meetings etc, and now that he didn't manage to decisively win in the one area he's actually strong in, I should expect him crumble over the rest of these things. What are the other topics? (edited by Arwon on 10-01-04 08:04 AM) |
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DahrkDaiz Red Super Koopa Acmlm's Mosts 2005 Best ROM Hacker Level: 45 Posts: 348/885 EXP: 643520 For next: 16644 Since: 03-15-04 From: K-Town Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by MathOnNapkins Actually, even Fox, an obvious pro-Bush/Republican network, admitted that Kerry had won the debate. Only extreme Bush supporters would believe Bush won this debate. Bush skirted the issues, repeated his arguments (Kerry is a flip flopper), recited scriptures, stuttered, had long pauses and had poor body language. Strictly from a debate stand point: Bush lost horribly. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 2494/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by Arwon That........was it basically. I hope the cover other things in the next few debates. |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 146/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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Yeah, that's what I meant - the topics for the other debates. Sorry for the lack of clarity. | |||
Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 5214/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Originally posted by Rebecca DaiseAnd god, I get so annoyed at this. Come on, I learnt this in school when we had debates not to repeat the same argument. Now, I think Kerry converted alot of people yesterday. Still is that enough for a win? |
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Davideo7 Koopa Level: 18 Posts: 46/112 EXP: 28817 For next: 1080 Since: 03-21-04 Since last post: 52 days Last activity: 17 days |
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I don't remember there ever being a winner declared... | |||
Sandy53215 Acmlm (10:55:31 PM): they're having fun for the first time in so long Level: 47 Posts: 193/948 EXP: 713034 For next: 53169 Since: 03-15-04 From: Milwaukee, Wisconsin (U.S.A) Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 4 hours |
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Wait! How can you guys go wrong with Bush? You guys got Dick Cheney, Colleen Powell, and George Bush so in reality the white house is like going in the If I could I would vote Bush. Main reason... Against Abortions... |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143 Posts: 3996/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer He did? To what file format, then? I think that USA needs another asshat now and Kerry fits in perfectly... |
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windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61 Posts: 92/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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Originally posted by Chaos Force Um... think of it like this: if we got bombed by someone, North Korea or something, who would you like to have at the helm of our country, Bush or Kerry? |
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hhallahh Bob-Omb Level: 38 Posts: 363/607 EXP: 365476 For next: 4971 Since: 03-15-04 From: Portland, OR Since last post: 73 days Last activity: 60 days |
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Don't tell me you don't want 4 more years of this comedy. |
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Bella Ludwig Von Koopa You're Gonna Love Me Level: 76 Posts: 1205/2962 EXP: 3891483 For next: 114577 Since: 03-29-04 From: Groovy Way Since last post: 8 min. Last activity: 6 min. |
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Haha, I had to watch it in Government class yesterday. Bushes body language, pauses, and stutters was amusing . It was funny how they would try to avoid the question or digress from the topic. I didn't notice it before..well it was the first debate I watched so excuse me if that happens a lot . Kerry clearly won. I saw most of it..the TV was having issues and the audio on the tape started going lower and lower . | |||
Arwon Zora Level: 35 Posts: 150/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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Originally posted by windwakerOriginally posted by Chaos Force Is there a particular answer you're fishing for here? |
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witeasprinwow Lakitu Level: 37 Posts: 510/555 EXP: 319587 For next: 18666 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 55 days Last activity: 55 days |
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Originally posted by windwakerOriginally posted by Chaos Force Doesn't really matter, if Korea (Or anyone, really) launches we're probably fucked anyways. Although I doubt Korea has the missile technology to shoot much further than California, so we might have a chance at surviving. I wouldn't particularly mind if they the home of scientology and humanist psychology. |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 5243/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Great poleland picture. x)Originally posted by windwakerBush! Becuse I rather would rather see Bush bombed than Kerry. ...ok that was a stupid joke. ~_~ But actually, Bush is trying to insist people all the time that he can defend the country better than kerry. But for being honest I have problems seeing how he could be better than Kerry. |
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DarkSlaya POOOOOOOOOOOORN! Level: 88 Posts: 2175/4249 EXP: 6409254 For next: 241410 Since: 05-16-04 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer He already failed. But he doesn't seem to realise it. |
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