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How much is generally 'required' for a hack?
Don't say that it doesn't matter; I've read too many posts claiming the exact oppisite. Don't forget: DISCUSS.
All slots filled. =o
 
5.6%, 1 vote
Lots of ExGFX!
 
16.7%, 3 votes
Quite a bit.
 
16.7%, 3 votes
Medium...
 
11.1%, 2 votes
Not a lot.
 
5.6%, 1 vote
Very little...   0.0%, 0 vote
NONE!
 
44.4%, 8 votes
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Posted on 06-18-04 05:27 PM Link | Quote
Generic question, generic post. Try not to have generic answers.
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Posted on 06-18-04 05:48 PM Link | Quote
As long as the hack is fun to play, no ExGFX is needed, so I say "None". A game doesn't have to look good to make it fun. Look at Super Mario Brothers. The graphics are basicly rotten, even compared to NES's limits (compare SMB and SMB3), but it's still fun to play (heck, it's somewhere around 20 years old, and people still love it). Graphics isn't the most important part of the game. You could even make a hack where everything is squares in different colors, and it could still be fun! FUN, FUN, FUN! That's the most important thing!
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Posted on 06-18-04 06:53 PM Link | Quote
Smallhacker is right... fun really is what matters in a hack. Anyway, I think the amount of ExGFX depends on the type of hack. If you want to make an... SMB3-like hack for example, you'd need some good GFX and ExGFX. However, if you wanted it to be a regular SMW hack, you wouldn't need any.
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Posted on 06-18-04 07:34 PM Link | Quote
Dont worry about graphics... just make good levels and your hack will be good
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Posted on 06-18-04 08:01 PM Link | Quote
Eh... There should be an 'other' slot.

Now, lately I've been trying to make everything ExGFX'ed as for whatever reason some people think the original graphics are unsightly, or too overused, and I'm trying to please everyone, and I can see others attempting something along the lines of a full conversion as well... But it's not exactly necessary.
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Posted on 06-18-04 08:05 PM Link | Quote
I don't think ExGfx is necessary at first, but having new Graphics also gives a you a different kind of feeling when playing the game. I would say that new Graphics is needed (what if Nintendo made all their games with the same Gfx, wouldn't that get pretty boring?), and a good Level desing is needed too, so you can't just have one or the other,.. you really need both.


(edited by Atma X on 06-18-04 11:07 AM)
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Posted on 06-18-04 08:34 PM Link | Quote
All of the slots filled.
A decent hacker would make a different ExGFX for each level.
Only level design? If DW:TLC had no ExGFX at all, i doubt people would've liked it as much as they do.
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Posted on 06-18-04 08:39 PM Link | Quote
For... Every... Level!?!

No *professional* programmer has ever done that... And you know why? Because creating original things is really draining... It's completely impossible to make new things in every level. I'd like to see you try...
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Posted on 06-18-04 09:20 PM Link | Quote
If you suck at using ExGFX and/or normal GFX, all in all, if you suck at making levels, as little as possible, if you're really good at it, use ExGFX to your heart's content!
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Posted on 06-18-04 09:21 PM Link | Quote
I agree, that's why my hack didn't have much of the Level desing completed yet, because I was making new graphics for almost every Level, and I've worked on my hack for about 2 years, so that's what happens when a even an expert at Lunar Magic (I'm only good at it because I spent Two and a Half constant years using LM, and learning it) spends too much time on graphics (and my intention is not to boast because I am good with Lunar Magic, I'm just giving you a good example of what can happen).


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(edited by Atma X on 06-19-04 01:08 PM)
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Posted on 06-19-04 03:37 AM Link | Quote
Half of the slots... at most...

If you use teh same tileset for 2 levels at most, that saves you half a page in Map16... and you still get the freshness across. People who are like "OMG FILL ER UP DOOD!" Are crazy, and their graphics probably wont look as good as they should anyways.

Besides, you can still have an A+ Hack with C+ Graphics amount....
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Posted on 06-19-04 04:05 AM Link | Quote
I would love to see someone use every single slot available.

And where's the "Depends on situation" option?
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Posted on 06-19-04 05:04 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Juggling Joker
I would love to see someone use every single slot available.

And where's the "Depends on situation" option?
Good question.

And evidenty Knuck is growing to be more of an idiot than I origionally thought...

But with the 4 NONE's and the other... what... 7/8 non-nones this poll's turning out how I wanted it to =D
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Posted on 06-19-04 05:20 AM Link | Quote
Required for a hack? None of course.

Heck, you can make a intresting hack of just pallate changes.

ExGFX adds depth to hacks, but only if propely done.
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Posted on 06-19-04 09:27 AM Link | Quote
You can do interesting levels w/ only a decent level design plus some hand drawn work. but exgfx are very necessary, or else the hack wont be too nice looking
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Posted on 06-19-04 12:02 PM Link | Quote
I would have to say none. As long as its fun, the GFX used shouldn't matter. Now, a hack with no custom blocks, that is boring.
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Posted on 06-19-04 10:12 PM Link | Quote
@Knuck: "(From: I LOVE ATMAX)" Why Would you put something like that ?!?

Change your "location", it's scary (never say you love me again)



(edited by Atma X on 06-19-04 01:16 PM)
(edited by Atma X on 06-19-04 01:21 PM)
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Posted on 06-19-04 10:27 PM Link | Quote
Only a few. I tire of putting new ones in my hack very easliy.
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Posted on 06-20-04 03:09 AM Link | Quote
Lots, But not all slots filled, unless it's a japanese hacker.

You can rip off GFX easy off Allstars with YY-CHR.
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Posted on 06-20-04 08:10 AM Link | Quote
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOT MORE RIPPING FROM "SMAS"

Choose another game to rip from, too many people have ripped from SMAS and it's getting old, and it's making the hacks very boring.


(edited by Atma X on 06-19-04 11:13 PM)
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