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Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - Super Mario World hacking - ExGFX: How much? | | | |
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How much is generally 'required' for a hack?Don't say that it doesn't matter; I've read too many posts claiming the exact oppisite.
Don't forget: DISCUSS. | All slots filled. =o |
5.6%, 1 vote | Lots of ExGFX! |
16.7%, 3 votes | Quite a bit. |
16.7%, 3 votes | Medium... |
11.1%, 2 votes | Not a lot. |
5.6%, 1 vote | Very little... |
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0.0%, 0 vote | NONE! |
44.4%, 8 votes | Multi-voting is disabled.
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Xkeeper The required libraries have not been defined. Level: NAN Posts: -3990/-863 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: -753366 sec. |
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Generic question, generic post. Try not to have generic answers. | |||
Smallhacker Green Birdo SMW Hacking Moderator Level: 68 Posts: 228/2273 EXP: 2647223 For next: 81577 Since: 03-15-04 From: Söderhamn, Sweden Since last post: 10 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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As long as the hack is fun to play, no ExGFX is needed, so I say "None". A game doesn't have to look good to make it fun. Look at Super Mario Brothers. The graphics are basicly rotten, even compared to NES's limits (compare SMB and SMB3), but it's still fun to play (heck, it's somewhere around 20 years old, and people still love it). Graphics isn't the most important part of the game. You could even make a hack where everything is squares in different colors, and it could still be fun! FUN, FUN, FUN! That's the most important thing! | |||
JJ64 Boo Level: 45 Posts: 433/919 EXP: 640956 For next: 19208 Since: 05-22-04 From: Green Bay, WI Since last post: 441 days Last activity: 269 days |
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Smallhacker is right... fun really is what matters in a hack. Anyway, I think the amount of ExGFX depends on the type of hack. If you want to make an... SMB3-like hack for example, you'd need some good GFX and ExGFX. However, if you wanted it to be a regular SMW hack, you wouldn't need any. | |||
Imajin Buster Beetle Level: 34 Posts: 336/452 EXP: 234863 For next: 18788 Since: 03-15-04 From: Kingdom of Zeal Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 53 days |
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Dont worry about graphics... just make good levels and your hack will be good | |||
Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 922/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Eh... There should be an 'other' slot. Now, lately I've been trying to make everything ExGFX'ed as for whatever reason some people think the original graphics are unsightly, or too overused, and I'm trying to please everyone, and I can see others attempting something along the lines of a full conversion as well... But it's not exactly necessary. |
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Atma X Bandit Level: 43 Posts: 382/801 EXP: 553639 For next: 11407 Since: 03-16-04 From: Derrière vous!!! Since last post: 43 days Last activity: 14 days |
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I don't think ExGfx is necessary at first, but having new Graphics also gives a you a different kind of feeling when playing the game. I would say that new Graphics is needed (what if Nintendo made all their games with the same Gfx, wouldn't that get pretty boring?), and a good Level desing is needed too, so you can't just have one or the other,.. you really need both. (edited by Atma X on 06-18-04 11:07 AM) |
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knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 374/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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All of the slots filled. A decent hacker would make a different ExGFX for each level. Only level design? If DW:TLC had no ExGFX at all, i doubt people would've liked it as much as they do. |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 925/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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For... Every... Level!?! No *professional* programmer has ever done that... And you know why? Because creating original things is really draining... It's completely impossible to make new things in every level. I'd like to see you try... |
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Darth Coby Vire Dacht je nou echt dat het over was? Dacht je nou echt dat ik gebroken was? Nee toch? Nou kijk eens goed op uit je ogen gast. zonder clic heb je geen kloten tjap... bitch Level: 55 Posts: 569/1371 EXP: 1240774 For next: 73415 Since: 03-15-04 From: Belgium Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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If you suck at using ExGFX and/or normal GFX, all in all, if you suck at making levels, as little as possible, if you're really good at it, use ExGFX to your heart's content! | |||
Atma X Bandit Level: 43 Posts: 387/801 EXP: 553639 For next: 11407 Since: 03-16-04 From: Derrière vous!!! Since last post: 43 days Last activity: 14 days |
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I agree, that's why my hack didn't have much of the Level desing completed yet, because I was making new graphics for almost every Level, and I've worked on my hack for about 2 years, so that's what happens when a even an expert at Lunar Magic (I'm only good at it because I spent Two and a Half constant years using LM, and learning it) spends too much time on graphics (and my intention is not to boast because I am good with Lunar Magic, I'm just giving you a good example of what can happen). (edited by Atma X on 06-18-04 12:22 PM) (edited by Atma X on 06-19-04 01:08 PM) |
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KATW King Yoshi "If you stare at something long enough, it can be funny." Level: 86 Posts: 906/3959 EXP: 6087979 For next: 54128 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 7 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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Half of the slots... at most... If you use teh same tileset for 2 levels at most, that saves you half a page in Map16... and you still get the freshness across. People who are like "OMG FILL ER UP DOOD!" Are crazy, and their graphics probably wont look as good as they should anyways. Besides, you can still have an A+ Hack with C+ Graphics amount.... |
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Juggling Joker Boomerang Brother SMW Hacking Moderator Yeah, JAMH is still being worked on. Level: 48 Posts: 193/1033 EXP: 811447 For next: 12096 Since: 03-15-04 From: Wyoming Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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I would love to see someone use every single slot available. And where's the "Depends on situation" option? |
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Xkeeper The required libraries have not been defined. Level: NAN Posts: -3980/-863 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: -753366 sec. |
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Originally posted by Juggling JokerGood question. And evidenty Knuck is growing to be more of an idiot than I origionally thought... But with the 4 NONE's and the other... what... 7/8 non-nones this poll's turning out how I wanted it to =D |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 2527/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Required for a hack? None of course. Heck, you can make a intresting hack of just pallate changes. ExGFX adds depth to hacks, but only if propely done. |
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Aioria Boss Bass Yes I will!! ;D Middle Ages Warrior Level: 58 Posts: 380/1567 EXP: 1516086 For next: 61460 Since: 03-15-04 From: near the pneumon ultramicroscop icsilicovolcanoconiosis land Since last post: 19 days Last activity: 19 days |
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You can do interesting levels w/ only a decent level design plus some hand drawn work. but exgfx are very necessary, or else the hack wont be too nice looking | |||
Kario In Possession of a Stolen Shovel Level: 65 Posts: 399/2082 EXP: 2321379 For next: 14249 Since: 03-15-04 From: Texas... Yeehaw! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 17 hours |
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I would have to say none. As long as its fun, the GFX used shouldn't matter. Now, a hack with no custom blocks, that is boring. | |||
Atma X Bandit Level: 43 Posts: 393/801 EXP: 553639 For next: 11407 Since: 03-16-04 From: Derrière vous!!! Since last post: 43 days Last activity: 14 days |
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@Knuck: "(From: I LOVE ATMAX)" Why Would you put something like that ?!? Change your "location", it's scary (never say you love me again) (edited by Atma X on 06-19-04 01:16 PM) (edited by Atma X on 06-19-04 01:21 PM) |
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gnkkwinrrul Dry Bones Level: 39 Posts: 212/647 EXP: 402054 For next: 2717 Since: 03-15-04 From: LYKEOMGIMFROMSOMEPLACE???? Since last post: 81 days Last activity: 40 days |
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Only a few. I tire of putting new ones in my hack very easliy. | |||
Darkmatt Red Cheep-cheep Level: 24 Posts: 89/212 EXP: 75447 For next: 2678 Since: 03-15-04 From: Clarkston, WA Since last post: 9 days Last activity: 10 hours |
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Lots, But not all slots filled, unless it's a japanese hacker. You can rip off GFX easy off Allstars with YY-CHR. |
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Atma X Bandit Level: 43 Posts: 395/801 EXP: 553639 For next: 11407 Since: 03-16-04 From: Derrière vous!!! Since last post: 43 days Last activity: 14 days |
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT MORE RIPPING FROM "SMAS" Choose another game to rip from, too many people have ripped from SMAS and it's getting old, and it's making the hacks very boring. (edited by Atma X on 06-19-04 11:13 PM) (edited by Atma X on 06-19-04 11:29 PM) |
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