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| Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - General Gaming - Brinstar Worm:Mini-Boss or not?(Zero Mission) |
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Is the Brinstar Worm a Mini-boss| Vote yes or no. | Yes |
90.0%, 9 votes | No |
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SM_Gamer Shyguy Level: 17  Posts: 34/93 EXP: 21882 For next: 2861 Since: 03-17-04 From: The depths of SR388 Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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| I found insperation to do this poll from the GameFAQs NBMB(No Boss Mini-Boss for those who never heard about this) where the Brinstar Worm couldn't be decided if you can beat it or not(a NBMB run is collecting as many items as possible without fighting any bosses or mini-bosses(in Super Metroid, you could fight the Ridley in Ceres and the Bomb Trozo)). In my option, it's not a mini boss because you can escape the battle, but I'll put up a sepulation. ________________ Mini-Boss: Traps you in. One time only. Not a Mini-Boss: You can escape. ________________ If anyone can add to this, post away. |
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Cymoro PATRICK DUFFY WILL LASER YOUR SOUL   Level: 67  Posts: 406/2216 EXP: 2549743 For next: 43129 Since: 03-15-04 From: Cymoro Gaming Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| You need to defeat Main Bosses. Mini-Bosses, however, are optional, so I'll go with Mini. |
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 1426/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| If you don't have to fight it, but its tough, I'll go with mini-boss as well | |||
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SM_Gamer Shyguy Level: 17 Posts: 36/93 EXP: 21882 For next: 2861 Since: 03-17-04 From: The depths of SR388 Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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| Not really. There is the cocoon in Norfair you need to beat to get to Ridley. | |||
MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 180/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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| SM_Gamer, I'm going to follow the template for the Supermetroid NBMB per deskjockey_. That is, even entering the room of/engaging a miniboss/boss constitutes fighting it. Ceres Ridley and Bomb Torizo are considered obligatory because, well, there's no way around them if you want to advance very far. It's like a no morphing ball run, the max percentage is maybe 1% but who cares about that? That said, when picking out which enemies are allowable to fight, they should be designated as to maximize the challenge and the appeal of the run. No one cares if your max NBMB is 5% because you didn't fight some piece of crap at the very beginning. |
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Fyxe Lyn Level: 51 Posts: 145/1160 EXP: 954265 For next: 59673 Since: 03-29-04 Since last post: 117 days Last activity: 114 days |
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| Yes, of course it is a mini-boss. Why? Well, the main reason is quite simple... The music changes when you fight it. That's the general rule for bosses and mini-bosses, and it works well for most games. In some cases it doesn't quite work; Metroid 2, for example, but that's a relatively unique case. Not only that, but there is only one of him, and he is large and powerful. Definitely a mini-boss. Just because you can continue without defeating him doesn't stop him from being a mini-boss. You can *not* defeat Ridley at the start of Super Metroid but he's still a boss. There are other bosses in other games that you can fight and escape/not defeat, I'm sure. Super Mario 64, for example. You can fight, say... Whomp King, and choose not to defeat him and run away. Mini-bosses aren't necessarily optional, either... Some Zelda games, for example, have a slew of mini-bosses that you have to fight. ...This is such a nerdy arguement, heh. The bigger question is whether the two Imago Larva are mini-bosses or not, though. Not the one just before Imago itself, but the two other ones. |
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Jill In love with a dream.. Level: 36  Posts: 160/528 EXP: 296548 For next: 11562 Since: 03-15-04 From: Teh Sweden Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 14 hours |
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| I'd say it's a mini-boss, but split into many parts. | |||
Xin Octorok Level: 10 Posts: 12/30 EXP: 4013 For next: 401 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 378 days Last activity: 5 hours |
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Originally posted by Fyxe You couldn't even get there in a No Boss/Mini Boss game. There are speed booster blocks in the heated room to the left of it. |
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Fyxe Lyn Level: 51 Posts: 149/1160 EXP: 954265 For next: 59673 Since: 03-29-04 Since last post: 117 days Last activity: 114 days |
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| Ah, fair enough. I'd say they are mini-bosses though. Clearly not very difficult ones. But they have different music and you get locked in the room and they die in a way that suggests they're mini-bosses (and leave behind a bunch of health pick-ups). Plus they don't come back, so you only fight them both once... |
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SM_Gamer Shyguy Level: 17 Posts: 37/93 EXP: 21882 For next: 2861 Since: 03-17-04 From: The depths of SR388 Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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Originally posted by Fyxe Two words  pace-time Beam! |
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Fyxe Lyn Level: 51 Posts: 154/1160 EXP: 954265 For next: 59673 Since: 03-29-04 Since last post: 117 days Last activity: 114 days |
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| One word... Glitch. And I don't see how that changes my point... My point was that you could fight Ridley at the start and not defeat him (ie: make him run away), instead you could not hit him at all if you wished. |
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SM_Gamer Shyguy Level: 17 Posts: 46/93 EXP: 21882 For next: 2861 Since: 03-17-04 From: The depths of SR388 Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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Originally posted by MathOnNapkins Ok. If thats true then the only areas allowed are Brinstar and Norfair because going left after the missiles activate the boss battle, and Norfair is possible to explore(little of it) without the bombs. I'd have to say that the max percent with your thinking is 9%(1 missile and engry tank and the long beam in Brinstar and the Ice Beam and 4 missiles). EDIT:Typo. (edited by SM_Gamer on 05-15-04 11:52 AM) |
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