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Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - General Gaming - GTA: San Andreas given AO rating | | | |
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DarkSlaya POOOOOOOOOOOORN! Level: 88 Posts: 3897/4249 EXP: 6409254 For next: 241410 Since: 05-16-04 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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*reads the article that Rydain posted* I lost faith in humanity for the 94674325098345434th time? |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4827/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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The game should've been AO already! For chrissake. There is something TERRIBLY WRONG WITH THOSE GAMES! YOU KILL PROSTITUTES FOR GODSAKE. GOD DAMMIT. This just shows the problem with the ESRB rating system. It is stupid and doesn't work. They need to rethink it. They need to have it so that AO doesn't mean porno game. They need to make a seperate sort of rating...An XXX rating if you will! |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81 Posts: 2781/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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Originally posted by alte Hexe With their new stupid ratings like E 10+, may as well make another AO 19+ one! ... |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4830/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Yeah. Or let States set the guidelines for ratings or something. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 9547/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Rydain: Right away the fact that she bought the game for her 14-year old should be enough to get the case thrown out of court. Ziff: The last thing I want is government intervention (state or federal) regarding game ratings. |
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Rydain Ropa Blaze Phoenix Runs With the Dragon Within Level: 42 Posts: 636/738 EXP: 490056 For next: 31306 Since: 03-15-04 From: State College, PA Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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Originally posted by ColleenYeah, I'd think any sane judge would laugh her right out of the room. I'm wondering how the fudge she got a lawyer to go along with her stupidity, though. And I completely agree with your comment to Ziff. I support government regulations when they fix an actual problem of public safety. For instance, meat packing plants in the United States used to have abysmal sanitation. (Reference Upton Sinclair's The Jungle, which is public domain and available at various online book archives. Just don't read it while you're eating. ) Food safety regulations were passed to deal with this problem. That's fine and dandy. On the other hand, media with violent and sexual content is not inherently damaging. You're not going to get sick and die from playing a video game where the object is to go on a criminal rampage. It's understandable that parents would want to keep this material away from their children, but that's what being a parent entails. Government resources should not be pissed away to nerf the world and pander to people who are too farking lazy to exert control over what comes into their house and to teach kids the difference between real and make-believe (and the basic concept that hurting other people is Bad, Umkay). |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4831/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Until the ESRB can clean up ship...and make their rating system even a bit more...you know...less asinine...I'd rather some more stringent controls on games. Kids are going to play Rapemaster 64000, watch Disembowling Hindu Goddess 8, listen to I Only Shoot Cops While on Coke, read Mein Kampf (German poop porn edition) and smoke cigarettes. At least putting some sort of system that prevents them from getting their hands on it readily will slow it all down. |
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Grey the Stampede Don't mess with powers you don't understand. And yes. That means donuts. Level: 82 Posts: 2793/3770 EXP: 5192909 For next: 16318 Since: 06-17-04 From: Kingston, RI, USA, Earth Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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I am currently punching my wall and banging my head against my desk in rage and anger at the idiocy of the modern consumer populace. It's their own fucking fault for buying the game. This is a lot like alcohol... You can buy alcohol easily. You don't HAVE to be a drunkard, but you can buy it. You don't HAVE to drink a little bit, you don't HAVE to drink at all. But you can buy it. |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 10637/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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There is a reason why I prefer Pegi Ziff. And GTA is the highest rating on PEGI already, and it already have the sex symbol for references. In other words, it's not going to change at all. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4832/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Exactly, but you see...The ESRB has the collective intelligence as this cup on my desk with mould in the bottom of it. The American system sucks and it is too easy for the kids to get games. The parents are all retards. I swear. RETARDS. They should be forced to read a god damned pamphlet on the game before buying it for kids. Screw social libertarians saying that guns in the hands of kids is the single most wholesome form of society and love. Screw them. People who lack maturity and are impressionable (namely kids and 95% of the people at this board) should not be given access to ridiculously violent games. Plain and simple. But then again, American politicians aren't much smarter than the retards that buy these games. So yeah. You guys are boned. Get ready for a shit load of law suits over something that could've been rectified by something called awareness |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81 Posts: 2801/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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I'm just glad I'll be 18 in a few months, then this will all mean nothing to me personally. Yeah though, I basically agree with Ziff, Grey, and Rydian. Overall this issue just seems to be extremely overexagerated, but a lot of things are at fault here and had it coming. (edited by Xeolord on 07-27-05 10:05 PM) |
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Emptyeye Real American Level: 67 Posts: 2026/2273 EXP: 2488421 For next: 104451 Since: 05-24-04 From: I DUNNOOOOOOOO!! Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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While time has not lessened the joy I feel over Rockstar getting the ass-reaming they've deserved for years now, I do have to agree with Ziff (And the Penny Arcade post of a week ago) that the ESRB has some explaining to do with their rating system: Basically, M is "scenes of gratuitous sex and/or violence". AO is "LONG scenes of gratuitous sex and/or violence". So by that logic, yes, San Andreas (And many other games) should have been rated AO from the beginning. |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81 Posts: 2828/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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There's also PLENTY of E rated games out there with cussing in them. I guess little kids can hear profanity too? |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 9555/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Ziff: The American government has more important things to worry about, in my opinion, than starting to give ratings to games or even banning games from being sold, which in my opinion would hinder the industry rather than help it. Yes, they should clarify M and AO (really, the only viable difference I can see is that AO has sex and M doesn't/shouldn't) but that's about it. I really don't have a problem with the ESRB ratings otherwise, they usually do their job. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4836/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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But they seem to have a good time policing every other aspect of the entertainment industry. They might as well finish the job and show some responsibility on this front. The ESRB system is an abortion. It has failed in every respect. It doesn't keep the games out of the hands of kids, and it doesn't inform parents properly. Tough shit, reform or be reformed. |
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NSNick Laidback Admin Level: 85 Posts: 3081/3875 EXP: 5895841 For next: 2699 Since: 03-15-04 From: North Side School: OSU Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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From the ESRB themselves So, the addition of the three words "prolonged", "graphic", and "nudity" make up the difference between AO and M. Not to mention the fact that they dropped blood and gore and strong language from the description. (edited by NSNick on 07-27-05 11:30 PM) |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81 Posts: 2831/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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The ESRB just seems like it seriously needs a BIG and drastic change. All you see now, are new "Descriptions" as to why games are rated what they are, seen Conker's Bad Furday? What happened to simplicity? And now they've got what, tons of ratings? E 3+, E, E 10+, T, M, AO Ah, I remember the days when a game was either KA 6+ or M. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 9558/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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You ever check their website, Ziff? Seems to me as though they do offer resources for parents to check ratings and what each of them means. Don't forget, the last round of congressional hearings ended up setting the stage for the ESRB, which the government felt was necessary for the industry to be on a level playing field rating-wise. As for keeping games out of the hands of kids, that's a retailer's job. Fine them if they're caught selling games to kids under the rating's age, but don't point the blame anywhere else. |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81 Posts: 2832/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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Originally posted by Colleen That, and the parents blindness is the biggest issue here in my opinion. (edited by Xeolord on 07-27-05 11:38 PM) |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4837/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Yes, because parents ACTUALLY know what the ESRB is! |
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