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| Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - World Affairs / Debate - Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) Goes After Modified GTA |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 270/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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| http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8573139/ Holy crap. This could have certain implications for the rest of the ROM hacking community. (Because of the issue at stake, I feel that this thread is most appropriate here, in the ROM hacking forum.) |
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richyawyingtmv Koopa Level: 15 Posts: 34/116 EXP: 14829 For next: 1555 Since: 06-14-05 Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 14 hours |
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God........its lucky I live in the Uk I'm 16, and I can buy alcohol from off-licences with absolute ease. I really cant see the crackdown on video games happening over here. |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 271/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by richyawyingtmv Yeah, I've always wondered why they keep freaking out over alcohol and tobacco over here and get into a penalizing mood. For example, here in the States, if you work as a waitress, then you're going to have underage kids, to get off like a drunk driving charge or something, who will try to get you to sell alcohol to them (using fake IDs, etc.) so they can tell the cops and have you charged. In Tennessee, you could get up to a year imprisonment, $3000 fine, and your license to sell alcohol for up to seven years taken away for that (which effectively means you won't be a waitress for a while). Seriously, over here, you're a bad person who must be punished if you sell alcohol to a minor no matter the circumstances. (edited by beneficii on 07-15-05 11:24 AM) (edited by beneficii on 07-15-05 11:25 AM) |
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dan Snap Dragon Level: 43  Posts: 652/782 EXP: 534516 For next: 30530 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 20 hours Last activity: 14 hours |
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| I don't see how this issue is of concern to the ROM hacking community. It's not like Nintendo put a sex mini-game into SMB3. | |||
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cpubasic13 17 years old now. Time to buy some M rated games by myself! Level: 54  Posts: 1240/1346 EXP: 1206934 For next: 26936 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blame my parents, Eddy Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| But it is a hack of a PS2 game. A hack. Knowing the many idiots that exist, they will take simple NES rom hacking as bad too. They will say that "If you can do that in GTA then imagine what you can do with something like Super Mario!" Yes, it is not likely, but still. Is it just me, or are all the people who are against video game violence democrats? This isn't an insult or anything, I am just asking. Just seems like it... |
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Kario In Possession of a Stolen Shovel Level: 65 Posts: 1877/2082 EXP: 2321379 For next: 14249 Since: 03-15-04 From: Texas... Yeehaw! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 17 hours |
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| Your all overeacting. This has nothing to do with Hacking. Its just an Easter Egg that gets you some XXX material. Whoppdeedoo. | |||
Sukasa Boomboom Error 349857348734534: The system experienced an error. Level: 57  Posts: 1268/1981 EXP: 1446921 For next: 39007 Since: 02-06-05 From: *Shrug* Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| Yeah, but then some stiff-assed political hack is going to say "OK, so what about other hacks?". You know them, they will. | |||
NEONswift Rope Level: 19 Posts: 92/117 EXP: 30883 For next: 4894 Since: 03-17-04 From: England Since last post: 24 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| shes a fuckwit to put it politely....why do politians never quite get that violent, sex filled video games are already monitored by ELSPA and given the appropriate ratings...its the retailers and the parents who are stupid enough to allow these to be sold/bought. I believe in cracking down on younger people getting there hands on games like GTA it shouldnt be aloud because of the very same reason you cant put a minor under 16 years of age in prison..because they havent yet obtained full moral development. And any one over the age of 16 if they commit a crime due to a Video game then it means something was wrong with their development as a child and they dont understand how the real world works. In that case anything could set them off not just a game but something as simple as news reports about the war in iraq. I doubt this'll go very fair as most things like this ever do. Plus the modding / hacking community is soo large with so many ways of altering game content that there is no way they could shut it down. just look at Bit Torrent and the Feds attempt to put an end to that. Nuff said. |
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Sukasa Boomboom Error 349857348734534: The system experienced an error. Level: 57 Posts: 1274/1981 EXP: 1446921 For next: 39007 Since: 02-06-05 From: *Shrug* Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| True, I bet that even if they try to shut down this board, the people on it would simply log off and reconnect with MSN / AIM or something. | |||
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Kario In Possession of a Stolen Shovel Level: 65 Posts: 1879/2082 EXP: 2321379 For next: 14249 Since: 03-15-04 From: Texas... Yeehaw! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 17 hours |
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Originally posted by Darkflight Read the freakin article. No one is talking about hacks. They are talking about an explicit game that has some sort of easter egg or glitch in it. NOT HACKING. |
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Sukasa Boomboom Error 349857348734534: The system experienced an error. Level: 57 Posts: 1280/1981 EXP: 1446921 For next: 39007 Since: 02-06-05 From: *Shrug* Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| Kario, What do the words MODIFIED VERSION mean to you? To me those are a clear sign of HACKING. | |||
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Kario In Possession of a Stolen Shovel Level: 65 Posts: 1880/2082 EXP: 2321379 For next: 14249 Since: 03-15-04 From: Texas... Yeehaw! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 17 hours |
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| Thats on the computer version. Look at a game like Quake 3. You can modify it to where you play as Homer Simpson in The Mushroom Kingdom if you have the correct files. The people making the game have nothing to do with it. To me, modifying computer files is completely different from hacking a rom. | |||
MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 2061/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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Of course, I've heard of older hacks like Super KKK Bros. and such? And those weren't causes for alarm. Or were they  ? Nobody here does offensive hacks so I don't really see it as an issue for us. |
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VL-Tone Red Cheep-cheep Level: 23  Posts: 116/200 EXP: 64158 For next: 3565 Since: 06-06-04 From: In the Moon! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Looks like she's going after companies and stores that sell violent and sexually explicit games to children, not after those who published the instruction to hack GTA. The hack instructions are not illegal by themselves, even if a child get it's hand on those, he must have the game to access the extra sexual content. That is what she is after, preventing children to access this violent game, even unmodified. If it had been an easter egg instead of a hack, she would have said about the same thing. |
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DahrkDaiz Red Super Koopa  Acmlm's Mosts 2005 Best ROM Hacker Level: 45  Posts: 714/885 EXP: 643520 For next: 16644 Since: 03-15-04 From: K-Town Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| I see this having nothing to do with ROM Hacking at all. If it mentioned graphical hacks of SMB that changes sprites into pensises, yes, but PS2 is beyond the scope of what we do and I see her as no threat in what we do. *moves to video games* | |||
alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 4616/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| This has to do with the purchase of games. Not production therein. If you want to whine about something whine about 18 USC 2257 which cripples the porn industry. |
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beneficii Lakitu Level: 36 Posts: 275/567 EXP: 299656 For next: 8454 Since: 06-27-04 From: Cordova, TN, USA Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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Originally posted by Ziff How about going after both? |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 4622/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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The first one is regulatory and allows for safer controls over the materials before going to minors (God, I HATE saying things like that). The second one, on the other hand, destroys the amateur porn and self-produced porn industries (which I don't mind but is actually hurting a lot of people  ) |
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Grey the Stampede Don't mess with powers you don't understand. And yes. That means donuts. Level: 82  Posts: 2719/3770 EXP: 5192909 For next: 16318 Since: 06-17-04 From: Kingston, RI, USA, Earth Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| >.> Ziff, since when do you defend porn? It's a mod... Those detailed instructions that are running rampant on the internet are just mods. Mods are legally protected by the fact that the internet is without legality... a simple disclaimer is all that's needed to keep people out of the courthouses, and the fact that the sheer anonymity of the net's residents is beyond even the most sophisticated search equipment that the government is enough to keep our beloved internet, as it always is, free. This is going to be one of hte few times I will ever say the Democratic party is in the wrong, but it is. Also, I think this would do better in World Affairs, at this point. |
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 3264/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by Darkflight And what does the word "RETAILER" mean to you? Does anyone here SELL their hacks? Yea, didn't think so. [22:38] AreyKefka: basically, to sum it up [22:39] AreyKefka: the thing says she is cracking down on people who sell rated M games to people who arent supposed to play them according to the ESRB [22:39] AreyKefka: am I right, or very right? [22:39] Lenophis: very right [22:39] AreyKefka: can I quote this? [22:39] Lenophis: go ahead (edited by Kefka on 07-17-05 01:29 AM) (edited by Kefka on 07-17-05 01:36 AM) |
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