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Dragonsbrethren

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Since: 12-01-05
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Posted on 08-15-06 01:22 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dan
Originally posted by ZOMG RANDOMaalsdkfj
By the way, whoever thought of this was a complete retard.


Changed to what it should be.


Seconded. Why does this remind me of the US government?
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Posted on 08-15-06 01:43 AM Link | Quote
So you're calling BMF a, to use your words, "complete retard"? Just making sure I'm reading this right.
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Posted on 08-15-06 02:05 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dragonsbrethren
Originally posted by Dan
Originally posted by ZOMG RANDOMaalsdkfj
By the way, whoever thought of this was a complete retard.


Changed to what it should be.


Seconded. Why does this remind me of the US government?

So, for the second time, if not third, WHY DOES IT SUCK.

Or even, why am I bothering to get opinions out of you people, it's obvious you just plain hate the idea for some stupid reason and refuse to say why.
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Posted on 08-15-06 02:06 AM Link | Quote
Either way, we'll lose.

Wheeeee.

Awesome thread title!
(and its not like we won't get more shit like that in the future).

Edit: Disregard that. But ... still.


(edited by Racer Xeo on 08-15-06 01:06 AM)
(edited by Racer Xeo on 08-15-06 01:06 AM)
(edited by Racer Xeo on 08-15-06 01:16 AM)
Randy53215

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Posted on 08-15-06 04:03 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dragonsbrethren
Originally posted by Dan
Originally posted by ZOMG RANDOMaalsdkfj
By the way, whoever thought of this was a complete retard.


Changed to what it should be.


Seconded. Why does this remind me of the US government?



If I remember right when you were with TEKhacks they had this as well..... So am I missing something?
Dan

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Posted on 08-15-06 04:34 AM Link | Quote
A few of my thoughts on the matter:

1. Forcing people to ask to be allowed to post on the ROM hacking forums is going to kill activity. It will also annoy people who come here from other messageboards to post their creations, and find they can't, unless they get permission. So they disappear off again, and people on this board eventually hear about a couple of months along the line when it's old news.
2. The problem with "n00bs" is being completely blown out of all proportion. Has anyone ever tried ignoring their threads? It's really not that hard. Or how about actually get the moderators to do their jobs?
3. Your solution is pathetic. People ask for permission to post, and it gets immediately granted. The criteria for granting people permission to post is vague, and probably doesn't exist (Having more than three brain cells? How can you possibly gauge that from one messageboard post?). It's simply a "do we think you're cool enough" thing. I won't be asking for permission to post.
4. Trying to be exclusive when the ROM hacking community is stagnant, and in dire need of fresh new blood is really silly.
5. Revoking everyone's posting rights because of a handful of users stupid behaviour is a complete over-reaction, and probably what Dragonsbrethern meant.

If you really needed to have some kind of ability to ban people from the ROM hacking forums, you should have granted everyone access. Then when people start being asses, remove their access. Your solution just shows that your staff are completely incapable of doing their jobs. Look at the dabacle of the SMW hacking forum for instance. You had this big relaunch, "no crap tolerated" policies, yet that didn't seem to last long.
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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 08-15-06 04:43 AM Link | Quote
As of right now, the general ROM Hacking forum is excluded from the approval process. You're welcome.

HOWEVER, if things start going to pot again one month from now, it's going right back in with the other two.
Dragonsbrethren

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Posted on 08-15-06 05:21 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dan
A few of my thoughts on the matter


You put it into words far better than I could have.

Originally posted by Dan
5. Revoking everyone's posting rights because of a handful of users stupid behaviour is a complete over-reaction, and probably what Dragonsbrethern meant.


Exactly.
Randy53215

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Posted on 08-15-06 06:31 AM Link | Quote
TEKhacks did the same thing. The exact same thing.
Ok Impala!

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Since: 11-25-05
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Posted on 08-15-06 06:55 AM Link | Quote
Ok!

I think this whole approval thing is a good idea. It will raise the quality in the ROM hacking forum and that's only a good thing. Many people start screaming when someone tries to regulate something here. But I rather have some regulation than a complete anarchy, so I fully go with the idea of approval.
Coby

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Since: 11-20-05
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Posted on 08-15-06 06:58 AM Link | Quote
I completely agree with Dan and Dragonsbrethren on this. I've been coming to these boards for some 3-4 years now and this has to be the by far dumbest thing you've people have ever done. This board is based around the ROM Hacking, without the ROM hacking this place would probably be empty. And that's exactly why you shouldn't put this kind of approval thing up. It'll scare people away, even people more intelligent than you.
If you want to keep the retarded people out then get your staff to do their jobs correctly.

Oh, and:


Would you mind fixing your post with an opinion as to why it sucks, or am I just going to have to ban you?

*Xkeeper isn't in a particularly good mood today, by the way.

That's very mature.
KeiiChi Kun

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Posted on 08-15-06 07:14 AM Link | Quote
Question, are they going read only at 6 Xkeeper time or board time?
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Posted on 08-15-06 07:21 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Coby
If you want to keep the retarded people out then get your staff to do their jobs correctly.
The number of idiots registering and posting crap is totally unrelated to how well we are doing our job. What do you expect us to do, predict who is going to register and pre-emptively IP ban them?

I'd really appreciate it if you guys could provide some specific examples of how we're "not doing our jobs," because it's getting REALLY old.

*Bob M. Frendelkraut, Esq. wonders how long it'll be until anyone notices that the ROM Hacking forum is now exempt from approval


(edited by Bob M. Frendelkraut, Esq. on 08-15-06 06:22 AM)
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Posted on 08-15-06 07:28 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Coby
I completely agree with Dan and Dragonsbrethren on this. I've been coming to these boards for some 3-4 years now and this has to be the by far dumbest thing you've people have ever done. This board is based around the ROM Hacking, without the ROM hacking this place would probably be empty. And that's exactly why you shouldn't put this kind of approval thing up. It'll scare people away, even people more intelligent than you.
If you want to keep the retarded people out then get your staff to do their jobs correctly.

Oh, and:


Would you mind fixing your post with an opinion as to why it sucks, or am I just going to have to ban you?

*Xkeeper isn't in a particularly good mood today, by the way.

That's very mature.

Except that people more intelligent than 90% of this board have left because of, you guessed it, the insane level of stupid in those forums.

New people won´t be afraid, as all it does is require you to prove you can handle the English language and plan to contribute SOMETHING.

In short, we can either leave the forum alone, which, judging from all of the messages I get from people whom I hold in high regard (blackhole89, BMF54123, several other people), is not working, or we can take steps to resolve the problem.

SWS2B uses a variation on this formula (30 posts, then a review by tech members), but that is a smaller forum with, during the trial period, only 5 forums -- two of which are for hacking, one announcements, and one help, and one general forum. And in case you don´t know, some of the shit they´ve put out will blow things from her eout of the water, mostly because everyone here who used to be capable of it left in favor of somewhere with less retards.


So either come up with a better solution or shut up, because I´m sick of dealing with people who can´t make up their minds (omg this forumj suxz but getting rd if the oditos sucks toO!!1one).


PS: if they don´t feel like giving a reason for disliking this, I don´t have to give a reason for banning them. Deal with it.
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Since: 11-18-05
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Posted on 08-15-06 08:49 AM Link | Quote
*notices the little thumb in forum header now*

Basically I am against ideas like this, on the other hand even the staff admits some parts of this board are going ... crazy. I always liked Acmlm's due to some nice people and already its ROMhacking and SNW section (no, I don't want to toady up ) somehow, despite the known problems. This happens in other forums as well, like game creation in RPG Maker, in the appropiate forums ("ur using the default btl system, u suk!" or one-liners like "you screen is 2 empty!").
On the other hand, things have to be tried out.

Big brother is watching you, yes, but at least this is not that bad like some terms of RFID chips and similar things. If it fails, the approval feature anyway still can be disabled afterwards (as long as Xk put it in well and the removal doesn't create a mess, hehe ).

Time will tell.
Tarale

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Since: 11-17-05
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Posted on 08-15-06 10:13 AM Link | Quote
I have a suggestion in regards to this.

The approval idea I think is necessary at least for the moment, but I do not believe it is a good long term solution.

What I would prefer to see is something along these lines:

A newbie forum -- covering basic FAQs and other information, and providing a forum for new members to the forum to post and ask "basic" or "dumb" questions.

Advanced Forum(s) -- which you need to be "approved" to post in -- either as per the approval process now, or as per their behaviour, etc in the newbie forum. Advanced Forums are viewable to all, but only the approved members would be able to post.

The reason I suggest this is that it seems to me that there are two general types of users and they seem to be getting in each others way. Beginner users ask different questions and are interested in different things to advanced users. Likewise advanced users are interested in different things to beginners.

This seems the best way (that I can think of) to cater to both types of users.

They take a similar approach on many technical forums, ie for open source projects, etc. ROM Hacking is just another technical field that could benefit from this I think.
Dragonsbrethren

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Posted on 08-15-06 11:24 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Randy53215
TEKhacks did the same thing. The exact same thing.


I sure as hell don't remember it.
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Posted on 08-15-06 11:53 AM Link | Quote
Forum Ban anyone?

Not like I hardly post in the ROM Hacking forums, I'm just not sure if this would be the best solution here.


(edited by Racer Xeo on 08-15-06 10:54 AM)
Pac

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Posted on 08-15-06 12:16 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Xkeeper
people more intelligent than 90% of this board have left because of, you guessed it, the insane level of stupid in those forums
Quoted for truth.

Dan raised some good points (mainly 4 and 5), but I honestly don't see a better solution.

In my opinion, this is a great way to once again create an idiot-free ROM hacking community, and I'm looking forward to seeing the SMW and Pokémon Hacking forums moved back to the hacking category.

*peter_ac supports this.
Xkeeper
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Posted on 08-15-06 12:54 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dragonsbrethren
Originally posted by Randy53215
TEKhacks did the same thing. The exact same thing.


I sure as hell don't remember it.

I do, mostly because that state gave you a plus sign.

(I really, really miss my old EN layout. Where have you gooooone ;~; )
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