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Yeah, simple enough question -- what OS(s) are you running?
What OS(s) are you running? You can select more than one for multiple OS(s) List is fairly generic to avoid me listing hundreds of distros and variants of things. If you want to be more specific, do so in your post. :)
Windows (3.11, 95, 98, ME, NT, 2000, XP, etc)
 
56.2%, 36 votes
Mac OS (Classic and OS X)
 
6.2%, 4 votes
DOS (FreeDOS, MS-DOS, etc)
 
7.8%, 5 votes
Linux (please state which distro)
 
20.3%, 13 votes
UNIX / BSD
 
3.1%, 2 votes
Other (please state which)
 
3.1%, 2 votes
Yes, an OS holiday would be nice...
 
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Posted on 02-09-05 02:50 AM Link
Originally posted by Jesper
Or secure IE versions.

What was that supposed to mean?
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Posted on 02-09-05 08:06 AM Link
Windows XP on both my Athlon 2500 and my Celeron 300. If I could, I'd vote twice for Windows.
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Posted on 02-09-05 08:31 AM Link
I use Debian stable. I'd upgrade to unstable, but it would take several days, prehaps even a week, to download the new packages, and backing up would also be major pain.

Jesper's comment looks like a response to BMF54123's statement that he will not install XP.
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Posted on 02-09-05 01:29 PM Link
Originally posted by Jesper
Or secure IE versions.
Well, I don't use Microsoft's pathetic excuse for a "browser" anymore, so that doesn't really matter...
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Posted on 02-09-05 11:25 PM Link
although other stuff that using iexplore may still though... So, as long as you do not run any other Microsoft product or any other program that uses Microsoft's .DLL, you nothing to worry about...
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Posted on 02-10-05 02:56 AM Link
This machine uses Red Hat Linux 8.0. Yes, it's old, but it's what I had when I got fed up with Windows and its viruses.
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Well, anytime I install Windows, it's either with 98lite for Win98, or nLite for Win2000. Both for the reason of not having Internet Explorer at all.
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Posted on 02-10-05 09:33 PM Link
Originally posted by BMF54123
Originally posted by Jesper
Or secure IE versions.
Well, I don't use Microsoft's pathetic excuse for a "browser" anymore, so that doesn't really matter...
I still think it's baloney to dismiss XP based on "bloat" - there's been lots of actual improvements all around. You're not stuck with "fisher-price", there's one built-in theme that in my opinion looks classier than the pre-XP style, which you can revert to anyway if you want to. Networks especially are easier to diagnose and configure from XP than 2000, and yes, I've tried both, but again, most stuff is improved.

If you've got a 98SE/2K machine and two other 98SE machines, I'd say it would benefit you way more to use just XP for that machine for 'modern' gaming, games that came out in the latest four years or so, and use one of the other 98SE machines for older games that won't play in XP if you can manage the computers like that. With the new stuff in SP2, it's also a LOT easier to keep XP current and patched compared to 2K. Overall, I think you're missing something by simply claiming it's bloat without having used it yourself for your purposes.

One last argument in favor of XP - the parts of Longhorn that's going to be backported (Avalon as of yet) are going to be backported to XP and 2003 Server, not 2000. So XP is definitely better in this aspect.
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Posted on 02-10-05 10:12 PM Link
Windows XP Pro SP2, without the "Fisher-Price" look. Along with Firefox, Ad-aware and Spybot, I feel I have decent control over the system... which my family continues to obliterate by using IE.
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Posted on 02-11-05 02:21 AM Link
Windows XP SP1, because I do not like SP2.

I use Windows because I don't have another ocmputer to test Linux on, and I detest Macs (too many bad experiences iwth them crashing for no reason whatsoever, usually ending in me getting a failed grade)

I prefer 98 because XP is too bloated for my tastes (I don't need custom schemes, mouse-cursor shadows, transparency) but I do like its lack of memory leaks (hence why I believe 2000 would be a nice tradeoff, but until I get a computer I can't do that)... too bad its DOS compatabilty sucks...

Also, Linux won't run what I use. I'm too accustomed to Windows and its layout of how shit works, not to mention games (which I play) and several other things are lacking on it.

(besides, I don't know of any programs that support Winamp's million of plugins, like Pitchfork and the input plugs, like Nosefart and NEZPlug (even though I prefer NotSoFatso, but Nosefart has a cooler name ) And since these comprise 99% of what I listen to, Linux is a no-go until that comes out.

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Posted on 02-11-05 02:44 AM Link
Originally posted by Jesper
One last argument in favor of XP - the parts of Longhorn that's going to be backported (Avalon as of yet) are going to be backported to XP and 2003 Server, not 2000. So XP is definitely better in this aspect.


Just because Microsoft wants to drop support for Windows 2000 makes it bad? That's like Microsoft not supporting IE6 on Windows 95. Sure, it can be done easily. heh, Windows 98 is almost exactly like 95, but Microsoft refused to do it.

I'm not sure about where you're coming from, but in my view, Microsoft hid a lot more thing in WinXP than Win2k. Thus, making it harder to use.
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Posted on 02-11-05 02:44 AM Link
I'm actually now used to SP2. I have it on the machine at work, regardless of whether I want it or not.

Of course, I think it's impact would be most heavily felt if I were an IE user, but I'm not, so I've thus far been relatively unaffected by SP2.

And I turn off XP's pretties.
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Posted on 02-12-05 05:14 PM Link
If you don't need custom schemes, mouse-cursor shadows - turn them off, which I'm sure you have. No need to whine about it just because the option's there.

Xk: For all I know, SP2 has been rejiggered at some core parts to help against the Blaster kind of attacks. It would be nice to know what issues you have with SP2, and if your not liking it justifies having a less secure system. And its DOS compatibility sucks, yup. It can't compete with something built upon it, which was the reason why the memory leaked in the first place. There are some DOS emulators out there that might fit your bill better than XP's built-in one, so don't fret.

FreeDOS, that argument was based on XP being favored over 2000 by Microsoft, but it's still valid even though it wasn't in the same form of the others (XP being different when compared to 2000 based on how it's built), because conceivably, it'll be even harder for BMF to go directly from 98 to Longhorn. "Just because Microsoft wants to drop support for Windows 2000 makes it bad?" - no, not bad, just a worse place to start from in a few year, and yes, "just" if you ignored the rest of my arguments.

XP being harder or easier to use isn't objective - it's subjective based on what you know about it and what you'd like to accomplish. It's way easier for me to tell people to stick stuff in Shared Documents if they want to share them, but it's still possible for me to set up shares and fiddle with permissions. But I guess if you want complete control all the time it would suck.
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Posted on 02-12-05 09:27 PM Link
XP on this, I would have SP2 but it doesn't seem to be compatible with something. (Windows refuses to start up. ) The other computer I never use has 98, I'm thinking about installing XP on it for testing though. I had Mandrake 9.1 on this one for a while (actually it's still on the old HD, but inaccessible ) but I didn't really like it, mainly because I'd have to find Linux versions of all my programs (and for that matter, re-write a lot of my own, especially the VB ones). It also seemed to have some weird bugs, like it would go all warped in anything higher than 1024x768 and at one point just did a really weird crash with garbage on the screen. I know just because it crashed once doesn't mean it's bad, but that was under very little CPU load; I'd be worried it wouldn't work so well doing more intense stuff. Also I just didn't like the feel of it... Not sure what it was, just didn't seem comfortable.
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Posted on 02-13-05 01:12 AM Link
Originally posted by FreeDOS
I'm not sure about where you're coming from, but in my view, Microsoft hid a lot more thing in WinXP than Win2k. Thus, making it harder to use.
To me, what Microsoft did with XP was to bring the stability of NT with the ease of use of 9x/ME. Which is why probably a lot more things were hidden because a majority of people wouldn't use those features. For those who want to use it, they are still there--they just have to dig for it more. Microsoft aimed XP more to the 9x/ME people than the NT and that is the logical thing to do since they fashioned XP to be the next generation OS for the general public. Since when has NT been aimed to the general public? It never has. It has mostly been aimed towards companies who have logical reasons to use the features of NT. Otherwise, most people don't even bother messing with those advanced features which makes perfect sense of why they are probably difficult to get to (since most people do not need it). It is all about audience when designing a UI and in the case for XP, Microsoft was aiming towards more to the general public than the power users just as you and myself.


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Posted on 02-13-05 01:14 AM Link
HH: I've found that XPSP2 works flawlessly if you slipstream it into the CD-ROM files and install it like that.

Windows 2000 makes it hard to control stuff about the system, but not as hard as WinXP. I'd much rather run WinNT 4 if Microsoft had DirectX above 5.0 (which itself is an unofficial build). Also, WinNT4 is starting to see the same ignorance that Windows 95 did a few years ago. It's perfectly capable of doing everything Win2000 can if you have SP6a, but it's just ignored.

Older Windows versions like Win95 and WinNT4 are not unusable because of technical incapability, but usually just being ignored by Microsoft and some other companies. Windows 98 is being phased out, and now Windows 2000 as well (Microsoft's stated that by saying future service packs for Windows 2000 are not going to be done).

Edit to neo: Windows 2000 had a campaign at first to be the next Windows OS for the home market. They quickly dropped that, though. It's also the reason "NT 5.0" was dropped from its name and replaced with "2000"


(edited by FreeDOS on 02-12-05 09:16 PM)
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On another note, I use Windows XP Pro for the most part, though I still use Windows 98SE and 2000 Pro occasionally


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(edited by Wario21692 on 04-08-05 12:45 PM)
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Hehehehe. Arguing about Windows XP and 2000? Really. If you want to see something ridiculous, take a look at my menagerie.

First up, it's a computer that came out of a dumpster. It's 13 years old and has a combined total of 800 MB storage between two hard drives. It's got an ancient 4x or so CD-rom drive, a 5 inch floppy drive, a 3 inch floppy drive, a weak 10 MB/s networking card... oh, yes, and a monitor which was 'MGC' and nothing else, identification-wise. It has MS-DOS 6.22 as well as Windows 3.11 for Workgroups, and is fully networked. It can go on the internet, but the massively low 8 MB ram causes things to be slow. On the plus side, I upgraded it to an AMD 486 133 MHz, which has the equivalent power of a 75 MHz Pentium, or other words is too slow to even be considered close to the mainstream Pentiums. It's also got some ancient power supply and a clumsy serial mouse. Oh, right, and the foot-long video card that has 1 MB of memory... and an 8-bit Sound Blaster. It sounds like a Sega Genesis when it plays midis.

Now, of course, that is never all. I also have an ancient Thinkpad 755CE. That is slightly slower; 100 MHz of 486 power at best. It refuses to go onto the internet, due to Compuserve. This poor thing is stricken with 8 MB of memory, too. And I got DOS 6.22 as well as Windows 3.11 on here, too.

This list becomes crazy, when you realize everything but that laptop is networked. For I have Windows 98 first edition, on an eMachine which packs a 12 CM custom blowhole fan, 500 MHz Celeron, 128 MB memory, a two-port (That's right) Compaq networking card (100 MB/s) out of a SERVER of all things, a 16 MB Nvidia TNT2 card, an ancient, unknown CD-rom drive, 4 gigs of space and the world's worst on-board sound card.

And now, we approach the future, with the best computer we were able to afford for 2000! This mammoth has a gigantic case. It packs 80 gig, Windows XP SP2 (Upgraded), of course, set to classic, with some special modifications to eliminate the various user-friendly stuff XP throws at me, networking, 64 MB Nvidia Geforce 4, 2.53 GHz processor, 512 MB memory, CD burner (Burns at 52x), DVD reader, and our friend, the 3 inch floppy drive.

At last! Something from the present! Bought in 2004, my laptop has 3.06 GHz processing power, 512 MB memory, 14.5 inch LCD WXGA screen, a kinda-bad onboard sound processor, a Radeon 9000 Mobile edition, which can use up to 128 memory, Windows XP Second edition (Once again, I abolished the plasticky look for the old one), and a DVD reader/ CD burner drive.

And all of this is networked together, save for that worthless Thinkpad laptop. So.... think I went overboard on describing all of this?
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Posted on 04-10-05 05:36 AM Link
Wario, please look at the dates before replying; this thread is 2 months old. (I'll leave the other one open because people are actually discussing it again, though.)
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