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| Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - General Emulation - Troubles with Final Fantasy 3 |
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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44  Posts: 349/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by Colleen I think hell will freeze over before people stop calling FF6 FF3. Or FF4 FF2 for that matter. I guess people want to be mislead by Nintendo after all. (edited by Lenophis on 02-01-05 04:28 AM) |
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Prier Archangel Administrative Priestess. NUCLEAR SUB WEEEOOOO Level: 119  Posts: 5115/8392 EXP: 18790939 For next: 138352 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima Dist. - Tokyo, Japan Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44 Posts: 350/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Well, I'd like to see you deal with this bullshit for years and years. Oh yeah, keep a straight face too... FF4 was released in '92, FF6 in '94, and FF7 in 96/97. Probably brought to light not long after FF7 was released....  I'd like to hope that the evil referencing of 'j' and 'us' would've already been over and done with, even after Origins, Anthology, and Chronicles being released.... But noooooo.... So yeah, frusteration mounts... |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 1994/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| this type of nomenclature will be around forever, just like kleenex with tissues and band-aids and bandages |
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Chibi Gatomon Shyguy Level: 16  Posts: 54/85 EXP: 18859 For next: 1397 Since: 04-02-04 From: Kamiya Residence Since last post: 70 days Last activity: 15 hours |
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| um can we get back on topic? | |||
dan Snap Dragon Level: 43  Posts: 385/782 EXP: 534516 For next: 30530 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 20 hours Last activity: 14 hours |
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Originally posted by Lenophis It's not confusion though. It's fact. Final Fantasy 6 was released in America as Final Fantasy 3. Therefore, it is acceptable to refer to it as that name. How you find that unacceptable is beyond me. Personally, I think I'll stick with the whole US numbering system. Mainly because it seems to annoy purists like yourself. Chibi Gatomon: My advice is to try downloading a new version of the game. There seems to be two different versions of the american release (Final Fantasy III (U) (V1.0) [!] + Final Fantasy III (U) (V1.1) [!] are the GoodSNES names), so work out which ROM you have, and download the other one. |
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Vystrix Nexoth Level: 30 Posts: 243/348 EXP: 158678 For next: 7191 Since: 03-15-04 From: somewhere between anima and animus Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 2 days |
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Originally posted by danFinal Fantasy 6 has also been released in America as Final Fantasy 6. There's no excuse for not knowing the correct number now, especially if one has Internet access, which is implied by posting at this board. The main reasons I advocate using the correct numbers are:
(edited by Vystrix Nexoth on 02-01-05 02:51 PM) |
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dan Snap Dragon Level: 43 Posts: 386/782 EXP: 534516 For next: 30530 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 20 hours Last activity: 14 hours |
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Originally posted by Vystrix Nexoth It's not being spiteful if you refer to the game under the official name given to it on release. It doesn't matter if it was incorrect, or not in sequence with the japanese versions, it is name of the american version regardless of whether you or some random people try to pretend otherwise. Nintendo have the game listed as Final Fantasy 3, and that is good enough for me. If that means that I'm immature in your eyes, so be it. |
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Chibi Gatomon Shyguy Level: 16 Posts: 55/85 EXP: 18859 For next: 1397 Since: 04-02-04 From: Kamiya Residence Since last post: 70 days Last activity: 15 hours |
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| to update, the cheats worked with version 1.1 | |||
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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44 Posts: 352/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by dan Number 1: We don't base our logic soley on the words of Nintendo. Number 2: It's Squaresoft's game, not Nintendo's. Squaresoft since re-released it as the proper number (like it should've been in the first place.) As was FF4. So there are two american versions, one correct, one incorrect and out of date. So if you want to continue to base your logic on something that is 10 years old...go ahead.
No, you're just being stubborn when the correct information has been put in front of you.  Chibi: don't cheat too much now, you are trying to enjoy the game, right?  |
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dan Snap Dragon Level: 43 Posts: 387/782 EXP: 534516 For next: 30530 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 20 hours Last activity: 14 hours |
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Originally posted by Lenophis As much as you would like to, you cannot retroactively rename a game. Even Squaresoft or Nintendo couldn't do it. I don't even see Squaresoft coming out with a statement saying that the american SNES Final Fantasy 3 game should be referred to as Final Fantasy 6. If they did, they would get ridiculed. People should be free to call the game either Final Fantasy 3, or Final Fantasy 6, they shouldn't be chastised if they choose to call it by its actual release title. Or vice versa. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 6520/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| I think the phrase "majority rules" comes into play here. 99% of gamers on the Internet know better than to call FF6 by it's incorrect (in terms of the series) name. If you were to go onto a message board and say "I was playing Final Fantasy III today" the vast majority of users would take that statement to believe that you were playing the NES version. And they'd be right to do so. |
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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44 Posts: 353/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by dan Only problem is, Nintendo did do it. Not Nintendo's game, but they still have final say on all titles released on their systems. Why do you think it was renamed to fool the general public in the first place? They didn't want to put up with the translations of FF2, 3, or 5, so that's why they did what they did.
*awaits Dan to ridicule Nintendo* Think about it for just one moment, if Nintendo didn't play their hand, then they would've been released as their proper title initially, and we wouldn't be having this discussion. They are originally to blame. Well? |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 6525/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Nintendo only did the FF1 translation, I think. Don't forget, Square was working on FF2 for the NES at one time, and even whipped up a crude translation (which can be found at Lost Levels), but of course it was never released. I think if Square had the resources in the American market and hadn't taken so long to consider porting FF2 over, they might have been able to get the NES trilogy out of the way. But stuff happens. |
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dan Snap Dragon Level: 43 Posts: 393/782 EXP: 534516 For next: 30530 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 20 hours Last activity: 14 hours |
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Originally posted by Colleen Just because the majority of people think something to be true doesn't mean that it is true. Originally posted by LenophisOriginally posted by dan They didn't rename the game retroactively. They renamed it at the time of release of the SNES version of Final Fantasy 3. I think this argument could go on to the end of time really. So, I'll be the one to bow out. (Mostly because neither side is budging an inch, and repeating the same arguments over and over get tiring) |
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Prier Archangel Administrative Priestess. NUCLEAR SUB WEEEOOOO Level: 119 Posts: 5138/8392 EXP: 18790939 For next: 138352 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima Dist. - Tokyo, Japan Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by dan WOAH FR33 j00r MYND NEO!11 But seriously...if you got and talk to most people and mentioned the phrase 'Final Fantasy III' without details (such as 'Oh yea, Final Fantasy III kicked ass.') a vast majority of people are going to say 'Uh...you mean Japan or US?' then most will argue with you if you say US, course I probably wouldn't care because VI or IIIUS kicks ass no matter what the name. (edited by Yomiko on 02-04-05 07:14 PM) |
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Gavin Fuzzy Rhinoceruses don't play games. They fucking charge your ass. Level: 43  Posts: 460/799 EXP: 551711 For next: 13335 Since: 03-15-04 From: IL, USA Since last post: 13 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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| all of you are idiots for caring. it's just a video game... neigh, it's just a video game title. | |||
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Prier Archangel Administrative Priestess. NUCLEAR SUB WEEEOOOO Level: 119 Posts: 5140/8392 EXP: 18790939 For next: 138352 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima Dist. - Tokyo, Japan Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by Gavin Not really idiots, it's good debate material. And it's a decent point either way. |
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Gavin Fuzzy Rhinoceruses don't play games. They fucking charge your ass. Level: 43 Posts: 470/799 EXP: 551711 For next: 13335 Since: 03-15-04 From: IL, USA Since last post: 13 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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yah, i just don't like seeing my internet friends fight with each other  therefore i declare myself the winner. (edited by Gavin on 02-04-05 11:08 PM) |
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Prier Archangel Administrative Priestess. NUCLEAR SUB WEEEOOOO Level: 119 Posts: 5146/8392 EXP: 18790939 For next: 138352 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima Dist. - Tokyo, Japan Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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Actually I win cuz I'm the mod.  |
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