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Posted on 01-31-05 06:53 AM Link | Quote
In relation to a party that has openly praised Hitler and made various other nasty comments...Well, I think it is fair to say that they aren't nice little socialists. National Socialists, maybe. But not any sort of real left-winged ideologists.
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Posted on 01-31-05 12:29 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by MathOnNapkins
Ziff, your view of the world is scary. You're what, 17? Where do you get all your information from? You like to sound like a man of the world, and I'm sure you're very intelligent, but WHERE do you get your information from? I'm not saying you're being lied to, but time and time again I see you post stuff that is out of the range of common knowledge, but without anywhere to go to verify it. To me it sounds like you have a political confidant who mentors you, or maybe an underground news source.
...it's one of thoose moments I wonder how much rosetinted glasses CNN use.

Yes, i'm not too fond of them myself. CNN get's too propganda like for a regular European to even stand it. :\

Newspapers talk about the "new nazis" quite alot around here, but yet the anti-nazism is alot higher. I'm not worried.

People do have to try reading diffrent newspapers all over the world, I hardly trust any source to 100% anymore.
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Posted on 01-31-05 01:10 PM Link | Quote
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Posted on 01-31-05 06:52 PM Link | Quote
Well the news just pretty much hypes up every story so that you'll be interested or scared enough to read it. So the basic spine of it may be true, but they exaggerate plenty.

People who deny the holocaust are just plain ignorant. Enough said. I can't say I live in Europe or anything but if this huge nationalistic uprising even were to occur-- I'm sure I'd have heard something about it by now. There are ignorant people wherever you go. In America you have the "hardcore" skinheads who just need a reason to hate. There are a handful at my school-- they're just pathetic teens who are bored of the system and need a scapegoat for their anger. There's always ignorant people-- I'm sure it's not too much to be alarmed about.

Or who knows.. maybe in 20 years you'll be laughing at us. The world is crazy like that sometimes.
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Posted on 02-01-05 04:31 PM Link | Quote
Actually, if he's right, he'll be screaming at us, except we won't be able to hear him, because he'll be dead.
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Posted on 02-01-05 05:39 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Andrew
Right now, though, no core country (i.e., the US, Western European countries) aside from the U.S. has a leader who can really be considered an extremist by current standards.


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Posted on 02-03-05 08:27 AM Link | Quote
Can I just point out that there are fascist-leaning groups other than Nazis and that just because Nazisim in particular isn't coming back doesn't mean that there's nothing to worry about with the fascists in general?
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Posted on 02-06-05 04:59 PM Link | Quote
Well, err, I agreed to the "Jews should stop playing the victim". I mean, your ancestors were killed 60 years ago! YOU DON'T FEEL THAT. And we already repaid you guys and stuff, it's been 60 years, anyone bitching about something that happened to their race 60 years ago should get shot because of ignorance.

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Posted on 02-06-05 08:34 PM Link | Quote
Heh, reminds me of a time I was in the car with my exgirlfriend's Jewish grandfather. He's a bit senial, so he says whatever's on his mind. I told him I was German when he asked, and he got a little mad, but I explained I had been in America as a family for over 150 years, so my family had nothing to do with all that in Europe. He just said "A German's a German." I wasn't really hurt, but it makes you wonder just how much hatred the Holocaust generated in the Jewish population. Though, of course, not a hatred to rival Hitler's.

edit/addition:
Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer...it's one of thoose moments I wonder how much rosetinted glasses CNN use.


The point, Kitten Yiffer, is that I trust CNN no more than what some random guy says on a message board. For your information I only watch stuff like that maybe once a week for an hour just to get a general idea of what is happening in the world. I would read more online news if I cared enough to, but I don't. Sometimes I watch FST = Free Speech TV which has all kinds of exposes on stuff you normally don't see in the mainstream news. For example, a story on how the US military could have prevented a massacre of ex Talibans but instead gave them up to the mercy of Afghani nationals. (Old story, I know.) But why should I trust that news source just b/c it is different? Why should I trust X newspaper b/c it is different. People like to lie if it benefits them. Like they say, any story has two sides to tell.



(edited by MathOnNapkins on 02-06-05 04:44 PM)
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