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| Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - Hardware/Software - Microsoft to limit Security Fixes to Legal Copies of Windows |
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Proto K Repent! Level: 27 Posts: 231/279 EXP: 113908 For next: 2251 Since: 03-15-04 From: New Brunswick, Canada Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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| I manually tried the test, and this is what it does: 1) Scans your product key. If valid, go to step 2. (If not, I don't know, but it'd probably say 'Key is not valid' and not let you continue) 2) Answer stupid, simple questions. The first part was a dropdown list of where you got the OS (came with PC, retail, VL, etc), then you pick what the cd should look like, then the last three questions are 'Can you see the hologram on < So, it's not really that big of a deal if you have a good valid key, unless Microsoft changes the test somehow (doubtful). (edited by Proto K on 01-27-05 01:14 AM) |
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BMF98567 BLACK HAS BUILT A SILLY DICE-MAZE! GO! Current list of BURNING FURY >8( recipients: - Yiffy Kitten (x2) - Xkeeper Level: 53  Posts: 610/1261 EXP: 1094149 For next: 62970 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blobaria Special Move: Rising Meatloaf Backhand Combo Since last post: 21 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| I installed a pirated version of Windows 2000 on my parents' computer (Windows 98 was not working well with their hardware at all, and I'm NOT going to pay hundreds of dollars to update an OS that's only going to be used a couple hours a week or less), and the VERY FIRST time I connected to the Internet, BAM--a trojan appeared. Killed that one, and yet another one appeared, and started using TFTP to download the rest of its payload (thankfully it never finished what it was doing). All within a couple of days. It didn't stop until I installed all of the available patches AND a copy of ZoneAlarm, which now allows me to see the HUGE number of incoming connection attempts likely coming from other unsuspecting users with similarly infected systems. If Microsoft actually goes through with this incredibly bone-headed plan, I can only imagine how bad things are going to get. Way to look beyond your bottom line, guys...  |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 1975/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| hmm...well, I think to be safe, I might as well go download the operating system that I'm entitled to for free (thanks to an agreement with microsoft and my computer science department) anyways, in time we'll see how this plays out |
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dan Snap Dragon Level: 43  Posts: 370/782 EXP: 534516 For next: 30530 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 20 hours Last activity: 14 hours |
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| In the end this is really gonna end up biting Microsoft up the ass. Firstly, how are non-computer literate people supposed to know whether they have a valid serial key? Especially, if their computer wasn't a PC bought from a big retailer, but built by some guy they know or something. If they lose the ability to receive security fixes (although, I think it's just updates from Windows Update that are being restricted, not the auto-upgrade tool), and their machine gets infected and trashed by a virus, who are they going blame? Microsoft. |
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Rydain Ropa Blaze Phoenix Runs With the Dragon Within Level: 42  Posts: 429/738 EXP: 490056 For next: 31306 Since: 03-15-04 From: State College, PA Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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dan makes a great point that I hadn't even considered. People and businesses who build computers for others might very well install illegal copies of Windows on them. In fact, a local computer store recently got busted for this (and they had even been previously warned by Microsoft to knock it off...talk about a bunch of greedy nimrods...the store, I mean, not Microsoft  ). Joe Sixpack probably doesn't even know what an operating system is, let alone comprehends that Windows is commercial software that must be licensed. Average people seem to see Windows as some nebulous part of the computer ("My Windows isn't working") assuming they even pay much attention to its existence at all. |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 7462/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| ...but didn't Microsoft just have a campaign where you could replace your pirated version of Windows XP with a legal one? Mine is legal thought, I doubt that HP goes the shady way. The thing with Linux distro, partially people in the Linux community must realise that the biggest breakthrough would be a Linux distro which is easy to use as Windows. Hell, make it easy to use as Macintosh but still safe. Make most adminstration tasks possible in a GUI enviroment. (but it's still needed to write in the root password, I don't want a easy to use Linux where your logged in as root all the time...) I could see it very possible, and the Linux hardcore people don't need to use that distro if they wish. It even seems that some Linux people seem to even disrespect people who are allergic even to the so simple DOS... |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143  Posts: 6991/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Can I replace it without re-installing the whole computer?  |
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Darth Coby Vire Dacht je nou echt dat het over was? Dacht je nou echt dat ik gebroken was? Nee toch? Nou kijk eens goed op uit je ogen gast. zonder clic heb je geen kloten tjap... bitch Level: 55  Posts: 1069/1371 EXP: 1240774 For next: 73415 Since: 03-15-04 From: Belgium Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by Trapster Yeah, seems like it. XPkey.exe is currently looking for a valid CD Key, in the zip I downloaded is also another program wich should allow you to change the CD key you're using. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get.  Level: 73  Posts: 1217/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| You know something -- I find this really interesting now that I've found out that Microsoft has had record earnings for this quarter. So, I don't think the piracy's been hurting them. |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1043/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Oh, I don't think so either. They're a multi-multi-billion-dollar company. the piracy may account for a few million, but compared to Microsoft, that's pocket change. I downloaded the evaluation version of Windows Server 2003. The funny thing about it is that they give you Enterprise Edition to evaluate, the most featureful retail version. I got sick of the activation and timebomb, so I got the corpfiles. Works like a charm... If I could, I'd tell Microsoft that they were only asking to have their OS cracked by making the $2000 copy a free "evaluation" download (one that isn't cripled). |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 1981/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| true but what is Windows Server 2003 in comparison to the current flagship OS of XP. Do many programs run on Windows Server 2003? | |||
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DarkSlaya POOOOOOOOOOOORN! Level: 88 Posts: 3330/4249 EXP: 6409254 For next: 241410 Since: 05-16-04 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| I shouldn't have anything to fear since I got WinXP legally (I still have everything that came with the CD, so if they've got anything to whine about my Windows, then they may come....I'm waiting for them) | |||
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Proto K Repent! Level: 27 Posts: 232/279 EXP: 113908 For next: 2251 Since: 03-15-04 From: New Brunswick, Canada Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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Originally posted by neotransotakuNearly everything that will run on XP will run, but not most Anti-Virus programs and disk utilities (server edition required, which is really no different most of the time from the standard versions except for the name and higher cost). |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 1982/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| i see...well, i guess the question now is who in the population would use Windows Server 2003... I think between Server 2003 and XP, I think XP has bigger piracy problems. | |||
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 1044/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Yeah, XP is definately pirated more. But I know a few people that use 2003 as well. The reason I used it was that Windows XP wouldn't want to activate (this is on a Compaq computer that has nazi OS requirements). Strangely, I was unable to find the corpfiles for WinXP but I found a set for 2003, which I already downloaded through Microsoft's evaluation program. Just about everything that runs on WinXP will run without anything special on Server 2003. It's mainly anti-virus programs that don't run because companies want money from people running servers. That doesn't affect me though since the computer isn't on a network, and thus I can control what goes in and out of the computer entirely. The only real annoying thing about Win2k3 is that the defaults are made for servers, so special effects and things aren't there (not even the ones in a Win2000 Pro default setup). You pretty much have to enable graphics accelerating, sound, and install DirectX if you need them. And unneccessary, but the Themes service is disabled by default. I enabled it, patched the UXTheme.dll, and installed the Watercolor XP 4.3 visual style on it. Over all, it makes a nice desktop OS once you got the settings that were tailored for servers worked out. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 1218/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Server 2003 is a nice server platform; I use it daily at work, mostly for messing with Active Directory. But yes, XP is pirated a LOT. Although I guess back in its day, 95 and 98 were also pirated a lot too.... If its Microsoft or Adobe, it seems to be incredibly easy to come across a pirated verison of it.... ; |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 3075/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Rydain A damn good point. A large number of computer users don't know a thing about computers. All they know is that if they click on the 'e' they can go on the Internet, if they click on the 'W' they can write, and if they click on the deck of cards they can play Solitare. If Windows suddenly starts telling them they have an illegal copy, they're either going to panic and think it means someone thinks their computer is stolen, or call Microsoft and complain that Windows says something about an illegal copy and now they're getting viruses. (I mean, we're talking about people who think this when they get an 'illegal operation' error, and that Macs are explosive.  ) |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 7491/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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It even said that Windows wouldn't get as big breakthrough if it wasn't pirate alot in the Windows 3.x days. Hell Windows didn't have any type of protection back in thoose games, almost no game had protection.  So maybe you could blame piracy for making Windows widespread, but it's not the only reason thought. Low memory requirments is another... |
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