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Ramsus Octoballoon Level: 19 Posts: 3/162 EXP: 34651 For next: 1126 Since: 01-24-05 From: United States Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 71 days |
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Just a quick drawing to try out Alias Sketchbook Pro. Interesting program (tools are a bit inflexible and awkward), but I still prefer Photoshop by a large margin. If I get the chance, I'd like to give Painter a try one of these days. (edited by Ramsus on 01-23-05 08:26 PM) |
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Kwan Doesn't have a valid sized userpic. ||bass will be pissed :(((((((( Level: 50  Posts: 1064/1137 EXP: 937111 For next: 10206 Since: 03-15-04 From: Durkadurkastan! Since last post: 22 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| The one that came with UT2k4? It's a pretty fun program for doodling in, nice work, though her hips need to be more pronounced. | |||
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Ramsus Octoballoon Level: 19 Posts: 5/162 EXP: 34651 For next: 1126 Since: 01-24-05 From: United States Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 71 days |
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| What exactly comes with UT2k4? I don't play PC games. Also, I don't see how the hips are "undefined," considering the position of the legs and based on my understanding of anatomy. Could you be more specific? (edited by Ramsus on 01-24-05 08:02 AM) |
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JDavis Trick or Treating Local Mod Affected by 'Halloween Syndrome' ++ Level: 44  Posts: 394/815 EXP: 568676 For next: 42609 Since: 03-15-04 From: Ada, Oklahoma, USA Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| It looks like she put the wrong shoes on the wrong feet. (The curve of the shoe and such) | |||
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Ramsus Octoballoon Level: 19 Posts: 6/162 EXP: 34651 For next: 1126 Since: 01-24-05 From: United States Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 71 days |
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| I posted this to possibly get an honest idea of what other people thought of the way it looked, but I didn't mention my intent, so meh. Pointing out an obvious mistake or two says almost nothing about it. Think it's a bad-looking, boring sketch with a bad concept? That's what I'd like to know when I post a quick sketch or drawing. Yes, if you can pick up the curve of the shoes, then you can see that the left one especially tends to be opposite what I wanted, even though the right one can look either way because of the messy lineart. Also, the shoes and hands are too big, the soles of the shoes a bit too wide for the angle they should be facing (the right shoe is way off in perspective), the elbows just a little off in the wrong directions, and the upper torso, especially the breasts (which should be stretched a lot flatter), horribly incorrect for the arms to be stretched up from the torso and supporting the body (the torso should be stretched longer due to the arms and a bit wider because of the weight of the body). Even the arms themselves aren't shaped properly for supporting that much weight. The head looks attached from behind to the top of the chest, instead of being on the neck and turned towards the viewer (so it should be viewed with the underside of the chin visible and the neck compressed). Don't even get me started about the details, especially that face. If you noticed the incorrect curvature of the shoes though, then maybe you can see why I don't normally try to do lineart with my wacom tablet (i.e. unlike some people, my control with the thing, except for pressure, is god-awful). You can also tell from the more general mistakes (e.g. the torso and head) that I don't study references and pre-visualize the drawing like I should when I just want to draw something. Next time I'll remember to fix or make note of all of the problems I already see, so that when someone does decide to point out mistakes, it'll actually be helping me improve my skill. Sorry for being so lazy this time around. (edited by Ramsus on 01-25-05 12:14 PM) |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get.  Level: 73  Posts: 1162/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Alias Sketchbook is a pretty good little program for sketching and stuff. Personally, I'd prefer to use it for sketching over Photoshop any day, just because it's more suited to sketching. It is also used by Gabe of Penny Arcade a lot..... As for the hips, something does look off there.... maybe it's that the waist doesn't go in all that much either, perhaps? At any rate, the width of the hips should be wider than that of the shoulders. But it's not exactly an easy pose to show that very well in. What I'd like to see is somehow if you could give more of an impression of movement. I only know that she's a breakdancer because you've said so... otherwise it could just as well be somebody doing a handstand with legs apart. Movement is not an easy thing to draw though, but if you could get a sense of movement into the drawing, it'd be more obvious that she's not just doing a stationary handstand. As for sketching programs, I recommend you try Open Canvas, which I prefer over Alias Sketchbook, and which is easier to use than Painter. Although Painter is just awesome and sooo fun to use.  |
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Ramsus Octoballoon Level: 19 Posts: 7/162 EXP: 34651 For next: 1126 Since: 01-24-05 From: United States Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 71 days |
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| Thanks, I'll check out a gymnastics magazine and a few skeletal references to study the hips a bit. As for the movement, I'll experiment with using motion lines or blurring, as well as some different poses that might suggest more motion. The only problem with Open Canvas is that I'm a Mac user, but I mostly stick to using pencils and ink anyway. After trying Alias Sketchbook again, I've decided that I just plain don't like the way the tools work except for the pencils. I might be giving my Wacom tablet to my sister soon, since she's been really interested in messing around with some of these programs lately. If that happens, I'll suggest she try Open Canvas with it. Also, I'm sorry if I put off or offended anyone with my stupid rant. It was out-of-line. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 1184/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Ah yeah.... I'd be happy if Portalgraphics ported Open Canvas to Mac, but for now it's the sole reason I hang on to my P4 Windows machine. If you haven't tried Painter though, I suggest you do. It doesn't take the same simple approach to things that OpenCanvas and Alias Sketchbook take -- in complexity, Painter is on par with (if not more complex than) Adobe Photoshop. Which is also why a few artists say it's too hard.... As for motion, I'm not sure what to suggest there... that's something I need to learn how to do myself |
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Ramsus Octoballoon Level: 19 Posts: 14/162 EXP: 34651 For next: 1126 Since: 01-24-05 From: United States Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 71 days |
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| In that case, I'll check out some of the computer labs on campus here and see if one has Painter installed. | |||
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 1186/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| It's worth it! (even if you find you just scribble all over the canvas for fun) Also, Painter is the only program I can think of that supports the tilt feature on wacoms well.... hold your stylus at an angle and use a spraypaint tool, and it's just the same as if you were holding an airbrush at an angle.... What kind of Wacom do you have anyways? (Intuos, Graphire ? ) |
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Ramsus Octoballoon Level: 19 Posts: 15/162 EXP: 34651 For next: 1126 Since: 01-24-05 From: United States Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 71 days |
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| I have a Graphire 3 (5x4" active area), which has 512-levels of pressure sensitivity and no tilt. It may be kind of limited, but it really gets the job done for coloring stuff in Photoshop. The size isn't too bad for 1024x768 resolution either, so it matches well with my iBook. I realize I should probably upgrade to something better one of these days, but I'm trying to get started with film photography right now, so I can't afford to for a while. |
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