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Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - Hardware/Software - eXeem due out this week (1/17-1/24) | | | |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143 Posts: 6828/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 6315/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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I'm going to wait for 0.20 Lite... I have trouble downloading anything in 0.18, no matter what I set the ports to. Bleh. Advanced technology sucks. |
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Jizuko Jiz Is The Magic! This board has run out of mana and can no longer use The Magic Level: 51 Posts: 1007/1191 EXP: 1004683 For next: 9255 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 230 days Last activity: 213 days |
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It had adware? Oooooh, now that was unexpected, I had no idea of it Funny that a lite version was released so quickly though, I didn't expect that for a long time. And the whole official exeem site just oozes of corporate. I hate sloncek, he should burn. And apparantly they can't continue the project without ads, because they have so many expenses, yeah, like the people that makes all the games that they had on suprnova didn't have expenses |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 6326/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Well, it uses Cydoor. Kazaa uses Cydoor so the method to get it out of eXeem is pretty similar. | |||
Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143 Posts: 6858/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Xkeeper The required libraries have not been defined. Level: NAN Posts: -2646/-863 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: -753366 sec. |
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Originally posted by Trapster |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 7344/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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...why didn't they choose a less aggressive type of adware, such as opera has? | |||
Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 6330/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Cydoor isn't exactly a virus but as I understand it, it still collects info/sends new ads to be displayed even when you're not using the program. So unless this version's brand new, it's bad. | |||
Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143 Posts: 6881/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 6341/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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From what I know, yes. Cydoor's running in the background. So even if that WAS the only function it had, it's still running secretly doing this and taking up resources. | |||
Jizuko Jiz Is The Magic! This board has run out of mana and can no longer use The Magic Level: 51 Posts: 1048/1191 EXP: 1004683 For next: 9255 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 230 days Last activity: 213 days |
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Here's an article/thread about eXeem and it's cydoor, and also a little interview with an irc admin. Sloncek really is a bitch |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 3047/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Personally, I'm a bit suspicious as to how fast the lite version came out. | |||
Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 6413/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Probably because it used the exact same method to extract the Cydoor spyware as Kazaa Lite did. In any event, I did a check of my PC and found nothing out of the ordinary as a result. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 6638/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Just doing a little bump of this, but if anyone's still interested... eXeem 0.21 came out a few days ago. The main feature is that they got rid of Cydoor in favor of an embedded ad system which only uses HTML; in short, there's no spyware now. eXeem Lite has been discontinued as a result of this. |
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Emptyeye Real American Level: 67 Posts: 1434/2273 EXP: 2488421 For next: 104451 Since: 05-24-04 From: I DUNNOOOOOOOO!! Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Too little, too late as far as I'm concerned. It's a hollow PR move, nothing more. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 6652/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Dunno about PR... put it this way, if more people were using an unofficial, hacked version of the program as opposed to the original, stable but spyware-ridden regular version, wouldn't you want to try stop the damage before the patient bleeds to death? | |||
HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 3202/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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I think a lot of people still wouldn't trust it. They obviously have no problems with infecting their users with spyware, who's to say they'll have any with switching back to it at some point? Or even using the ad code to install more, if possible. | |||
Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 7837/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer Originally posted by Colleen...heh, seems like someone heard my pleah. Althought I still wait before I download this, it still contains adware thought. But it should be as much adware as opera is, unless the web ads is abusing IE security bugs to force install stuff. (then, I have deactivated scripts in IE. So it would be worthless against me xD) |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 6706/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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That is possible but I've done some spyware scans on my system and they've picked up nothing. For the moment, things seem to be running fine. |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 3226/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Well that's the idea. If you're going to use something like that to download nasties, you wait until after everyone has scanned and approved it. Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer I wouldn't even really call it adware, even though that is the right term. Most people associate that with spyware and other bad stuff, which isn't the case here. Text ads are fine with me (hell, I'd even consider putting them in my programs if I needed the cash ) as long as they don't try to screw with things. (But it's always a good idea to explicitally say something like "THIS PROGRAM USES TEXT ADS ONLY", not just "ad-supported", lest it end up classified as spyware anyway. )
I really wouldn't think so. Turning scripts off helps security, but it certainly doesn't make it completely secure. IE can be crashed/exploited in a number of non-script-related ways such as crafty ActiveX, JPEG buffer overflows, certain unclosed tag/CSS patterns, etc. (Did they ever even fix that unprintable character bug? Where going to something like 'www.site.com*@www.site2.com' where * is an unprintable character takes you to www.site2.com but shows www.site.com in the URL box... Could be very easily exploited by something like this. ) |
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