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alte Hexe

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Posted on 01-17-05 11:28 PM Link | Quote
US wants war with Iran, too

At least this war has some justification from the get go.
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Posted on 01-18-05 02:51 AM Link | Quote
it's about time....

but still.... why not Saudi Arabia? 15 out of 19 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia....
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Posted on 01-18-05 02:58 AM Link | Quote
its cause the US has "ties" with the saudi government. and because its easier to get oil from weaker countries like iraq and iran.
alte Hexe

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Posted on 01-18-05 03:52 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by geeogree
it's about time....

but still.... why not Saudi Arabia? 15 out of 19 of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia....


Because Saudi Arabia's government is relatively in good faith with the US government. By your logic, since 17 of the terrorists passed through Canada to get into the US, Canada should be attacked.
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Posted on 01-18-05 04:35 AM Link | Quote
No, that's not just it. A hell of a lot of terrorists are from Saudi Arabia. The only reason we're NOT doing this is because the Bush family is quite 'good friends' with the Saudi Royal Family.
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Posted on 01-18-05 05:07 AM Link | Quote
Ziff: feel free.... the one and only war that Canada and the US faught, Canada won..... eventhough we weren't techincally Canada yet....

and yeah, if you want to attack Canada because the terrorists came trhough Canada, then you are a dumbass....

but if the US wants to fight terrorism.... it should invade Saudi Arabia....
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Posted on 01-18-05 06:03 AM Link | Quote
Wow. Just wow. Your logic astounds me!

If only the Canadian tax dollars that were wasted on you worked. Zarathud, I've got to say, your privatized education plans to get rid of idiots sounds really nice right now
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Posted on 01-18-05 06:55 AM Link | Quote
Ah, but weren't the Terrorists actually against the Saudi government? (IIRC, Bin Laden wants some sort of Uberneocaliphate that would cover all of the Muslim world, so the Arab states are all barriers to that)

More on topic, Iran is an evil regime, but if we overthrow them, the people will end up hating us and any new government we put in, and begin "nostalgia" for the old prewar Islamic Republic, which while it was an evil regime, it was an evil regime created by Iranis...

And Canada only survived the War of 1812 because of British help, and Britain was the local superpower at the time.. Keep Great Britain out of it, and we would have kicked Canadian butt.


(edited by Imajin on 01-17-05 09:56 PM)
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Posted on 01-18-05 07:00 AM Link | Quote
Actually, you were fighting Britain and only Britain. Napoleon willed it so that the British couldn't intervene in Europe. But given Britain's strength, America was stopped and Napoleon was stopped (sadly). Napoleonic Europe would've been nice...
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Posted on 01-18-05 09:23 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ziffski
Napoleonic Europe would've been nice...


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Posted on 01-18-05 09:32 AM Link | Quote
If Napoleon would've taken over all of Europe. I'm normally anti-Imperialist but le Code de Napoleon had it all right.


(edited by Ziffski on 01-18-05 12:33 AM)
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Posted on 01-18-05 11:26 AM Link | Quote
You know what we haven't done in a while?

Attacked Chirstain countries... have about we give that a try again?
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Posted on 01-19-05 06:49 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Apple

Attacked Chirstain countries... have about we give that a try again?


The problem with attacking Christian countries is that the Middle Eastern countries tend to be less democratic, and tend to have more oil than the Christians... Though I've read Canada has oil, plus a border dispute with Denmark.. We simply come down hard on the side of the Danes, and if they make the slightest pretension at disagreeing with the US.. bam, we have your war


(edited by Imajin on 01-18-05 09:49 PM)
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Posted on 01-19-05 07:13 AM Link | Quote
"Bush has warned Iran in recent weeks against meddling in Iraqi elections."

Asshole. Hypocrite No, Asshole.

I hope they don't reinstate the draft for this one, for a few reasons:

1) I don't want my aging stepfather called in, despite his being able bodied, he has a family to support.

2) I don't want my girlfriend called in, because the Bush administration will draft women alongside men, no matter how much chauvanism is in their personal accords, when war is involved they'll get anyone to fight for them.

3) I don't want my friends called in, they're some of the greatest intellectual minds I've ever seen and they don't deserve to die and possibly set American technological development back a few decades.

4) I don't want to be called in to fight for a country I have little, if any, faith in the leadership of.


(edited by Grey on 01-18-05 10:14 PM)
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Posted on 01-19-05 07:30 AM Link | Quote
come to Canada.... we'll take you in!!!!

we will, we've done it before, and if there is a draft, I'd expect it to happen....

come to Canada!
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Posted on 01-19-05 09:34 AM Link | Quote
can i come? is it pricey to live there? Will i be shunned?
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Posted on 01-19-05 05:09 PM Link | Quote
There isn't going to be a draft. There is no evidence to suggest that there will be, or might be either.

Let's face it, it's not that large a scale a war. The US are planning to go through one territory at a time, not the many countries like in World War 2.
If there was a draft, do you really think everyone will end up in Iran? You'll be tripping over troops if that happens.


(edited by Retro-Kasumi on 01-19-05 08:09 AM)
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Posted on 01-20-05 05:38 AM Link | Quote
If Iran was stupid enough to launch missles at us and start a war, then I might agree to this war. There is no point in doing this when we are still in Iraq, which is a waste of time. No one will back us up, our ties to other countries will break and everyone will hate us. (more)
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Posted on 01-23-05 07:17 AM Link | Quote
People should realize though that there's always been at least one country that hated America.

During the Civil War, European Monarchs wanted to South to win because they hated the North's "Test of Democracy". And even then, the South hated America, per se.

Then you have other country. Now they hate us due to odd stereotypes.

Obviously, we don't care about our rep.

War with Iran? People won't like it. But you have enemies to everything, and you have sympathizers to everything.
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Posted on 01-23-05 07:19 AM Link | Quote
On the war with Iran, it's pretty much already begun. If no one noticed, us (the USA) has already started to use Israel as our puppet for Iran affairs.
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