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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70  Posts: 1074/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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| I keep coding all this cool shit and stuff, but when you look closely you can see that I compensate a lot. Y'see, I'm not a good coder. I can't even code up an easy-type Space Invaders clone. If I ever did manage to do so, it'd work only half and you'd be too focused on the 1337 graphics work to notice. I spend a lot of time compensating with 1337 graphics. I have here, on this CD-ROM, a very special devkit for the GBA. So far, I have made a 100% Sappy-based jukebox and a (good start of a) Japanese-style hentai game, naturally including catgirls. More than 75% percent of these ROMs has been coded and/or heavily adapted by me. The jukebox is also an experiment platform on HDMA effects and looks VERY cool so far. My problem clearly is that I can't write any actual game logic of any level beyond a question-driven H-game to save my fuzzy ass. This and a chronic lack of help has thoroughly killed my fighting game, sad as it may be. And remember, the hardest part of EliteMap, the actual map editing, was 100% Bouche's work, not mine. I merely extended it. Noticed the spiffy looks yet? It is now January. I aim to have at least -one- full game released under the Helmeted Rodent label by the end of the year. But I'll need one or more of this: 1) Concrete source code for various types of games, preferably platformers. 2) Coding minions, for lack of a better word. Without that, another vital part of my life would be destroyed. And they call me a Beeg. I'm running out vital parts of my life here...  |
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labmaster Blue Octorok Level: 12 Posts: 15/43 EXP: 6135 For next: 1786 Since: 07-17-04 From: New Zealand! Since last post: 10 days Last activity: 2 min. |
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| If it's games with sources you're after, there's a heap at gbadev - http://www.gbadev.org/demos.php | |||
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 1075/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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Originally posted by labmasterI know that. But I've stolen enough code already. |
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Parasyte Bullet Bill Level: 35  Posts: 183/514 EXP: 267348 For next: 12588 Since: 05-25-04 Since last post: 104 days Last activity: 32 days |
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| Don't sweat it. Even good programmers have trouble completing anything. Just look at me; (No intention of sounding like an elitist asshole with a huge ego) I am a damn good hacker and programmer [to which I will provide detailed evidence, if required for some very odd reason]. However, I find it very, very difficult to complete any project. Particularly, I've been unable to complete ANY game project, let alone get any of them to a point where they are actually playable. There are numerous reasons for this, which I won't go into detail about. The main problem comes from a general lack of motivation. If I work on a project too long (with regard to certain, specific exceptions) I will get bored with the project and throw it aside for another. That's just the way I am. I am not sure exactly what it is that you are having trouble with, but it sounds more like a self-esteem issue (if you don't mind my saying so) rather than my ADD-like symptoms. For that I am afraid I cannot provide any advice. What I can provide, though, is minimal programming support if you really need it. But, I am a bit strict on what programming languages/compilers/development environments I use. If you stay away from languages like BASIC, Java, etc. and most any Microsoft compiler, I would be glad to provide assistance. I won't do a lot of the work for you, but maybe a bit. I'm generally interested in providing suggestions and such to get you moving. If you really want to program, it's best to just go for it, rather than beating around the bush. And if someone is able to push in the right ways, it really does help. Yeah, that should be plenty of rambling. |
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 1076/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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| Well, it's not motivation. It's more like raw frustration due to semi-constant fKitten Yiffer. At least when I made my first ASM hack, a new intro screen for Pokemon R/S, I managed to completely finish it well within 24 hours, not counting sleep/food. For the record, I use ProDG, an official product. It seems to be mostly based on GCC. Also, by lack of a functioning string manipulation library, I succesfully wrote my own number-to-string routine a couple days ago. So far, it only goes up to 255 but it works like a charm. This, however, is -not- related to game engines. PS: Your name reminds me of dancing games. |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 2912/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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You're not alone. I have tons of programs I never finished for all sorts of reasons from not being able to find something I need to just getting bored of it.  And BTW, copying code isn't really a bad thing as long as you understand what it does and how it works. |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 7235/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| And if you need help with GBA code, I could reach a hand. Yes i'm competly clueless on it, but guess what type of proccessor I want to learn programming for? ...yes ARM. Besides I do want to try programming for another platform than PC. I know basic Java so I probably wouldn't have that big problem with C... If there is anything I lack, it's gotta be artistic talent. If I did program something I would make so much sucky placeholder graphics it wouldn't be funny... But consider that I have a few school projects right now, but I try to at least learn the basics during the weekends. (edited by Kitten Yiffer on 01-13-05 06:35 PM) |
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 1079/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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| Well, thanks I guess. So far I've found... Lord Draga's platform demo Looks reasonably helpful, even if it uses an 8x8 player on 8x8 tiles. Problem: it's only the binary. Some guy's jumping demo Utter crap, both in source and result. Also not at all what I needed, just a stickman that must jump to dodge a certain Jan's head. No actual platforms included and generally very poor and unusable. I shall now return and search on... Edit/Update: Following SlimeSmile's advice, I pinpointed some books on Amazon. I am currently downloading Game Architecture and Design - A New Edition from ye olde peertopeer network. (edited by Kawa-oneechan on 01-14-05 12:41 PM) |
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Zem You can be civil without being flowery, dipshits. Level: 49 Posts: 563/1107 EXP: 829398 For next: 54485 Since: 06-13-04 Since last post: 131 days Last activity: 131 days |
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| I have a suggestion. I don't know if this is feasible with any manner of assembly, but I've found that if I'm working on something big, I will ALWAYS forget how it works. This is what they tell you to do in books and classes, and I always ignored it, but lately I've been trying it and it's helped a lot: Comment the fuck out of your code. Seriously. In this latest php toy I'm working on I have comments on practically every fucking line. It's made everything way, way easier. Maybe it's just me, but try it out. =( |
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 1082/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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Spazzed the GameDev boards a bit. Found one DOS game that looked about right for platform collission detection, XRaiders.Originally posted by ZemGuess what I did when I managed to write a replacement for SPrintF? |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 7272/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| Zem: Well, that's something I should consider. Especially when I only use comments to disable bits of code... I did look through a few tutorials, apparently it looked easy enough for me and with some training... |
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windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61  Posts: 994/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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Originally posted by Parasyte I don't believe you, prove it ;o. |
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Parasyte Bullet Bill Level: 35 Posts: 206/514 EXP: 267348 For next: 12588 Since: 05-25-04 Since last post: 104 days Last activity: 32 days |
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Squash Monster New Age Retro Hippie Togateiru Fohku Kohgeki!! GRUNGE no HAMSTER otona bite Peace love and turnpike! Level: 40 Posts: 508/677 EXP: 430507 For next: 10802 Since: 03-15-04 From: Maryland (of the Country Between Canada and Mexico) Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| I know how you feel, I have the engine, graphics engine, and the harder half of the level generator for my current game project sitting around on my hardrive and it hasn't been touched for at least a week. I kinda lost momentum when I started a recode and an attempt at making a better 3D graphics engine thingy. I find the most difficult part to be dealing with gravity, making things not fall through objects when they go too fast and such. I typically store all coordinates in two variables, one for tiles and one for pixels off of that tile, becouse, along with capping the speed at one tile per second, it makes it possible to ignore a lot of the weird collision stuff. Does any specific part give you trouble? If it'd help, I could whip up a platformer engine pretty quickly if you're alright with Java (well, I guess I could put up with VB6). |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 7277/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| I think I try following this http://www.jharbour.com/gameboy/default.aspx tutorial, considering that the other tutorial didn't look as proffessional. Heh, I wish I could get that as a book... |
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 1090/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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| Emil... I hate to post this where everyone can read it but I don't think HAM is a very good thing to use. Real GBA coders avoid library intros. |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 2959/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Zem That's always a good thing to do, but once I really get into something I tend to forget to do it, and end up having to come back and add them later. |
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kitty hacker Micro-Goomba Level: 7 Posts: 9/14 EXP: 948 For next: 500 Since: 12-09-04 Since last post: 261 days Last activity: 250 days |
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| I call coding minion if you help me with graphics Sensei | |||
Ramsus Octoballoon Level: 19 Posts: 17/162 EXP: 34651 For next: 1126 Since: 01-24-05 From: United States Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 71 days |
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| I never really coded anything really cool as far as most programs go (I can't work on a project for more than a day or two it seems like), but I understand the frustration you're going through. Coming up with algorithms for game logic or models without any guide or code to learn from feels like wondering in the jungle all of the time. I put up with it for a while, then quit because I felt that I couldn't be a real programmer. Don't give up though, because you'll eventually get it. Recently I've become interested in programming again, which is why I've quit programming temporarily to study concrete math and then computer algorithms first. I'm hoping to expand the way I think about problems in order to improve my ability to find solutions (in other words, write my own algorithms). I prefer the problem solving and modeling aspects of computer programming and math anyway. If I were further along myself, I'd offer to help out, but in the meantime I hope you find the help you need. GameDev.net has a lot of articles, and you can find a lot of open source games to look at and study. Learning a few time and project management skills and sticking to them might help too, since then you'll be able to make deadlines and stick to projects longer. |
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Parasyte Bullet Bill Level: 35 Posts: 237/514 EXP: 267348 For next: 12588 Since: 05-25-04 Since last post: 104 days Last activity: 32 days |
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| The best approach to writing any type of algorithm which you are unfamiliar with is just breaking it down into smaller portions and decide exactly how to do each one seperately. For example, if you were to design a 2D maze-solving (or 'path finding') algorithm, you would have to think along the lines of, "OK, I have a 2D maze with many walls and paths, but with only one proper path. The object is to get from Point-A to Point-B. So I must: 1) Start at Point-A. 2) Move in a straight line until I am given a choice of which direction to take. 3) Choose a direction, and record this decision. 4) Follow this path until another choice comes up. 5) Repeatedly make decisions until a dead-end or infinite loop are reached. 6) Backtrack to the last decision made and try the next direction. 7) Repeat until all possible choices have been made, or until Point-B is reached." After you understand what your algorithm will do, you must decide how it will accomplish it. In this case, you could use recursion for each choice made, or keep a queued or stacked 'log book' of previous choices. It really does not matter HOW it works, just as long as it DOES work. Well, that's how I view things when trying something completely new. I'm sure many programmers can wholeheartedly agree with this method. |
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