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Should student's grade other student's papers in the classroom?| Okay, so it has its good points, but it also has some... moral issues to it. What do you think? | Yes |
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KATW King Yoshi "If you stare at something long enough, it can be funny." Level: 86  Posts: 2379/3959 EXP: 6087979 For next: 54128 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 7 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| Okay... so if you ever had a teacher that was maybe, too lazy to grade that one test or quiz, or you have a short whatever, youve probably seen (or participated in) grading another persons paper. Now, this is good in some cases... 1) Saves time for the teacher, so she/he can get onto something bigger to grade, like projects/essays/ect... 2) Lets the student know what their grade is right there, instead of having to wait. This is good for those who keep track records of their acedemic status. 3) Going over the answers lets students KNOW what they missed and why they missed it. It also lets them know what they need to brush up on for end of the year exams/SOL/other standardized tests. However, this does have a darker side to it also... 1) Some students like to keep their grade private. Its their acedemic acheivement, so why should they share with anyone else? 2) Some people are subject to nasty remarks in younger grades when they dont get above average success. 3) People can grade FALSELY, whether it be on accident, or purposely (One would hope not), and some people actually dont bother to check what they missed. Therefore their grade is comprimised. Those are just a few key points I have come up with on this topic. I have experienced most of the bad things personally. My peers look up to me as the 'Brain Child' of the group, and whenever I get anything that isnt B(85/100) or higher, Im sure to expect a bit of a rough time. Nobody ever WANTS to go through that, so I do hide some of the... less impressive grades from people. You cant do that when someone else grades your paper. In school, information spreads like wildfire. So... now that I have laid down something to discuss... the question is, do you feel it is right or wrong to have peers grade eachothers papers? |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 2372/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| I'm so biased that I'd just fail people and give stupid reasons, so no. | |||
hhallahh Bob-Omb Level: 38  Posts: 482/607 EXP: 365476 For next: 4971 Since: 03-15-04 From: Portland, OR Since last post: 73 days Last activity: 60 days |
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| Eh, I dunno. I don't think your concerns are valid.. for me, the question comes down to whether the benefit or the teacher not having to waste his/her time on grading outweighs the loss of class time. Ideally, I guess, a TA could be hired to handle these things. | |||
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KATW King Yoshi "If you stare at something long enough, it can be funny." Level: 86 Posts: 2381/3959 EXP: 6087979 For next: 54128 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 7 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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Originally posted by hhallahhThose arent all of my concerns... I just felt like typing the ones I thought were... important in some way. Plus, Im sure you have something to add as well, right? True, a TA could be hired, but what about schools that cant pay for them?  Other arguments are welcome  |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 2375/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| I personally think that, after review, this thread would be great in general discussion! | |||
Prier Archangel Administrative Priestess. NUCLEAR SUB WEEEOOOO Level: 119  Posts: 4701/8392 EXP: 18790939 For next: 138352 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima Dist. - Tokyo, Japan Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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| Not really...but then homework usually isn't counted in college anyways for a large majority...just the big papers, the exams, and the final...at least for the majority of gen ed. Course it could be a sign that the teach is lazy too. |
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Mel (USER WAS TOTALLY AWESOME FOR THIS POST) Level: 47  Posts: 706/991 EXP: 762490 For next: 3713 Since: 03-15-04 From: secure tripcodes are for jerks Since last post: 17 min. Last activity: 16 min. |
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| We did this in Nevada all the time due to overworked teachers in understaffed schools with around 30 students in class, on average. Usually more. I've never had a bad experience with students grading papers, so I'm pretty much for it. |
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Danielle Local Moderator  Level: 76  Posts: 87/3359 EXP: 3958078 For next: 47982 Since: 09-15-04 From: RATE Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| I do that all the time in most of my classes, and Ive never had a problem. It saves the teacher time and we get our scores back faster. The only thing I dont like much about it is someone else sees your work. If you bombed something, they know. And if you succeeded, then you have to put up with them calling you goody two-shoes for the rest of the year. Sometimes we have TA's, just older students who have a free period in their day and get elective credits by helping teachers. Thats the best way to go.. no worry for the students and no hassle for the teacher. |
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| Honestly, I don't think it's such a big deal. Just do your best from both ends, and that's pretty much all you can do. And, on the off chance somebody incorrectly marks your papaer, YOU still you got the awnser right. | |||
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 2897/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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It's far too easy to exploit, especially given that you have to have your name on it. The only way to be sure it was done correctly is to re-do it yourself. Besides, teachers get payed to do it, maybe they should be the ones doing it? Lazy bums.  |
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Tamarin Calanis We exist. Earth exists. The universe exists. Do we really need to know why? Level: 59 Posts: 273/1802 EXP: 1672751 For next: 377 Since: 07-12-04 From: The gas station on the corner... Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| I'm gonna go with yes, IF it's done how it was in my Biology class. We didn't use names in that class, on our assignments anyway. We were each given a four-digit number that we put on our papers. The teachers knew all the numbers, and we knew our own. After the students graded the papers, they were all put on a table. We then got our paper back and checked to make sure they graded correctly. That worked pretty well, and I see none of the problems that you listed with this approach. With the number, which we could change any time we wanted if we thought people were catching on, we could keep our grades private. That also takes care of number 2. And we checked over them again to make sure it was graded correctly, so number 3 isn't a problem. Edit: That should be "Students Grading Students' Papers." Quick grammar correction for thread title. (edited by Cheveyo Chowilawu on 01-11-05 12:55 PM) |
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Cruel Justice XD Level: 55  Posts: 543/1384 EXP: 1253266 For next: 60923 Since: 03-20-04 From: Darkwoods Penetentiary Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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| Students have less experience than the teachers in academics, more less, life in general. Young adults tend to rely more on their feelings and most are'nt quite at the level of maturity to avoid temptation. So, no... | |||
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Toxic in a sublime state of mind Level: 75  Posts: 2258/2857 EXP: 3732709 For next: 94195 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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| No, way too many morons in my school would just pair up with somebody they liked and mark it all right. | |||
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Tamarin Calanis We exist. Earth exists. The universe exists. Do we really need to know why? Level: 59 Posts: 277/1802 EXP: 1672751 For next: 377 Since: 07-12-04 From: The gas station on the corner... Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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Originally posted by ToxicAh, forgot to mention that one in my paragraph. They were passed out randomly, you didn't have a choice in the matter. And the teacher doublechecked the answers if there was any suspicion (bad student suddenly getting 100s on everything) |
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KATW King Yoshi "If you stare at something long enough, it can be funny." Level: 86 Posts: 2384/3959 EXP: 6087979 For next: 54128 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 7 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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Originally posted by Cheveyo ChowilawuIf theres one thing my English teachers failed to teach me, its where to use an apostrophie(and/or how to spell it) About the number thing, our History teacher had us pick out aliases (Take a guess at what mine is ) at the beginning of the year, so she could post our grades up on the wall (Therefore eliminating grade sheets to take home). Of course this doesnt work as well (Some people figure out who you are after a time) But at least it works |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 1300/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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| I haven't even done anything remotely like this since grade school (maybe up to 5th grade?) But my impression was that it wasn't fool proof, and friends could mark each other higher than normal and things of that sort. But my teachers also required the grader to sign their name on the paper they graded, so if there were any issues of unfairness, you could go ask the person, and then the teacher if you were still sure you were marked off unfairly. As for the other side, raising a friend's grade, I considered it the teacher's job to take care of that, and to spot signs of it. Finding a way to make it truly anonymous, say electronically, would help in that regard. |
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Toxic in a sublime state of mind Level: 75 Posts: 2259/2857 EXP: 3732709 For next: 94195 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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Originally posted by Cheveyo Chowilawu yeah, but that would undermine the system. it's supposed to reduce work on teachers, and them going back to recorrect stuff would just mean the same, if not more work. |
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