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Posted on 01-17-05 06:09 PM Link | Quote
Zarathud, killing a person in the scenario you presented would probably be what I would do (given that I would have a gun, and the knowledge of how to use it, neither of which I actually have). However, this would be an action based on emotion and self-defence, not on rationalism and morals. In a life-threatening situation, people tend to forget reason and forget their morals. The reasonable (from my moral persepective) thing to do would be to try to neutralize the shooter, without actually killing him. However, the scenario presents a situation where emotions take control, and morals and reason are forgotten. If this person were to be aprehended, though, he would no longer pose a threat, and thus one should again be able to think morally and reasonably, and not sentence the person to death.

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Posted on 01-17-05 09:21 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Samur4iX
and part of the reason most of crimes are done by poor people is cause majority of people are POOR!


What exactly are you trying to say here?
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Posted on 01-17-05 10:22 PM Link | Quote
I believe he's trying to say that often a killer's motivations come from outside, and that the killer is not responsible for actions influenced by his environment.

On a totally different note, one has to take into account a killer's psyche when they are apprehended. I say we find out his motivations for the killing, his history, his environment, and every possible factor that contributed to his hatred of life (including things that may seem irrelevant, such as who his third grade math teacher was or something like that, psychoanalysis can take the smallest details and work them toward the largest consequences), and based on that, give him the choice of living a life in prison or dying a death that he may or may not want. This goes both for and against the proposition that financial status has to do with murder.

The view that someone should die because they killed is an eye-for-eye view of the world. I believe everyone's life has a different worth, and that losing one's life does not justify losing another person's. It's just primitive to assign a set value to everyone's life.
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Posted on 01-22-05 08:43 AM Link | Quote
Personally, I believe that the best consequence for someone who has done wrong is not physical punishment equivalent to the crime, but for them to correct themselves. This applies also to the death penalty. I think that people who have commited crimes "evil" enough to be executed should be placed in prison instead, so they at least have the chance to repent, even if they may not ever leave jail.
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