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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 2470/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Is Final Fantasy not a series? It went from NES->SNES->PSX->PS2. | |||
Acmlm Torosu heh Level: 51  Posts: 971/1173 EXP: 981994 For next: 31944 Since: 03-15-04 From: Somewhere that isn't outside of Sherbrooke, Québec, Canada Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by ZiffskiPhantasy Star 3 too, but they went back to the old style for 4  Toejam & Earl 2 was also quite different from the first, but I'm not sure if there ever was a third one ... |
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alitnil Snifit Level: 27  Posts: 204/290 EXP: 107568 For next: 8591 Since: 07-16-04 From: Phoenix, AZ Since last post: 56 days Last activity: 44 days |
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Is Final Fantasy not a series? It went from NES->SNES->PSX->PS2.  D'oh!toooootally spaced on that series! okay, the phrase "once a series makes it to a new system, it tends to become a new series" is not valid at all. So long and good riddance to it. --add-- Donkey Kong jr was the the only one of the three to have the goal of saving DK as opposed to stopping him. Hmm, DKC2 had the same theme. Hmm... i never played DKC3. And didn't Adventure island 2 first get the dinosaurs, or was that AI3? (edited by alitnil on 12-16-04 02:02 PM) (edited by alitnil on 12-16-04 02:05 PM) |
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Emptyeye Real American Level: 67 Posts: 1115/2273 EXP: 2488421 For next: 104451 Since: 05-24-04 From: I DUNNOOOOOOOO!! Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| That was 2. Adventure Island actually spawned from some completely unrelated Sega series (Whose first game was the same)...I wanna say the Wonderboy series. O.o |
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NSNick Laidback Admin Level: 85  Posts: 1470/3875 EXP: 5895841 For next: 2699 Since: 03-15-04 From: North Side School: OSU Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by AcmlmI think they just came out with one a little while ago for XBox. I never played any but the first, though.Originally posted by ZiffskiPhantasy Star 3 too, but they went back to the old style for 4 |
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Keitaro Iron Knuckle ウラシマ ケイタロウ Level: 54 Posts: 881/1342 EXP: 1201569 For next: 32301 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hinata, Japan Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| Pokemon Gold and Silver. Second installment, FAR different from any of the others by so many ways (it kept track of the day of the week, and even had day and night corresponding with your own time. none of the other games have yet to do this) | |||
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco.  Level: 114  Posts: 3592/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| But it followed the same basic formula. The reason those aren't in other things is because the majority of people polled found it very inconvenient. | |||
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Keitaro Iron Knuckle ウラシマ ケイタロウ Level: 54 Posts: 884/1342 EXP: 1201569 For next: 32301 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hinata, Japan Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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say whaaaaaat....nuh. nuh-huh. that cant be. where did you hear this? that wouldnt make SENCE, since the majority of people use pokemon only found at night (HOUNDOUR, kthx)... |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 3593/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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And people don't like being unable to catch them during the day. I don't see what's so hard to understand  And to answer your question, I read it in Nintendo Power awhile back. Not certain exactly what issue. |
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Keitaro Iron Knuckle ウラシマ ケイタロウ Level: 54 Posts: 885/1342 EXP: 1201569 For next: 32301 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hinata, Japan Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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that's screwed up. that was THE coolest feature  and now you cant legitimately get your own espeon and umbreon from an evee (well you CAN but you wont know what one it is). the date thing was so cool. certain events like stores opened on certain days, etc...that made it fun and inovative. now its like "SET THE CLOCK SO YOUR BERRIES CAN BE RETARDED AND THE WATER GOES UP WHEN IT BLOODY WELL FEELS LIKE IT". and Hoothoot and Noctowl are no more. i'm so depressed  |
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drjayphd Beamos What's that spell? pimp! Level: 56  Posts: 786/1477 EXP: 1387410 For next: 10766 Since: 03-15-04 From: CT Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by HyperHacker I'm not sure it can count... basically none of the games (not counting FF10 -> FF10-2) are connected in any way. Although I suppose FF2j does count, as it did have the whole gain-experience-according-to-your-actions system. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 5604/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Yeah, FF2 was radically different from all other Final Fantasy games in how characters developed, where the others all used an EXP point system to my knowledge. So in that respect, I think it counts.  However, as there's no timeline for the FF games, you could easily make a case for any of them being distinct. Emptyeye: Wonder Boy = Adventure Island. At least the first installment. Hudson pretty much split the series and had Adventure Island follow the same style of gameplay while playing around with the Wonder Boy series and making it more fantasy-like. |
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Grey the Stampede Don't mess with powers you don't understand. And yes. That means donuts. Level: 82  Posts: 1456/3770 EXP: 5192909 For next: 16318 Since: 06-17-04 From: Kingston, RI, USA, Earth Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by Colleen Ratchet and Clank, as well. If anything, the first game in that series was the black sheep. All the weird features from the second game stayed on in the third, but the first had a different control system, different weapons system, heck it even had a slightly different graphical style. |
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Karadur Fire Snake  Level: 48  Posts: 340/1192 EXP: 786444 For next: 37099 Since: 11-02-04 From: Chatham, Ontario, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 15 hours |
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| The only one I can think of right now is Star Tropics 2. It's quite a bit different than the first one, in that you can move freely (you moved a set amount with each button press on the first one), the tunnel rooms can have more than one 'floor', and the addition of the different swords and things as weapons, when on the first one you only had a yoyo, which could be upgraded to a ball and chain or a supernova, then all the alternate weapons. | |||
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alitnil Snifit Level: 27 Posts: 209/290 EXP: 107568 For next: 8591 Since: 07-16-04 From: Phoenix, AZ Since last post: 56 days Last activity: 44 days |
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| hmm.. the trend is looking like it is older games that are affected by the '2' syndrome while modern games not so much. --off topic-- Second is the black sheep for these movies India Jones 2 Star wars 2 Jurrassic Park 2 (edited by alitnil on 12-18-04 01:26 PM) |
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NSNick Laidback Admin Level: 85 Posts: 1477/3875 EXP: 5895841 For next: 2699 Since: 03-15-04 From: North Side School: OSU Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| That's because back in the day, they actually experimented to try to make cool stuff. Now it's all cookie-cutter sequels. </bitter> | |||
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 3690/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Well it could be worse. Look at Devil May Cry 2. You want people making sequels like it? | |||
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alitnil Snifit Level: 27 Posts: 210/290 EXP: 107568 For next: 8591 Since: 07-16-04 From: Phoenix, AZ Since last post: 56 days Last activity: 44 days |
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| never played Devil May Cry 2. Only watched somebody play the first one for twenty minutes. how is the sequel different from the original? | |||
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Karadur Fire Snake Level: 48 Posts: 349/1192 EXP: 786444 For next: 37099 Since: 11-02-04 From: Chatham, Ontario, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 15 hours |
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| What about Ocarina of Time / Majora's Mask? The main thing is early every other Zelda game in the series takes place somewhere in Hyrule, but then in Majora's Mask they all of a sudden switch to Termina. I believe it was also the first Zelda game to have a set limit of time you had to beat it in as well, even though you were able to turn time back. |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 3702/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by KaradurThat's not Zelda II, though. Majora's Mask is Zelda VI. And it's not the first one not to take place in Hyrule, either, Link's Awakening is. |
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