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Have you done drugs?| Yes, lots and lots |
14.0%, 6 votes | Yes, I smoked the ganja |
20.9%, 9 votes | Yes, but I regret it |
7.0%, 3 votes | I might, but I just don't care right now |
2.3%, 1 vote | No, I just don't feel right about it |
55.8%, 24 votes | Multi-voting is disabled.
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34  Posts: 210/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| "The only thing that puts a decline on the intelligence of a nation is a regressive government that attempts to restrict people's choices." the only thing.... right how about you grow up and realize the world isn't the way you think it is (edited by geeogree on 12-15-04 12:36 AM) |
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hhallahh Bob-Omb Level: 38  Posts: 464/607 EXP: 365476 For next: 4971 Since: 03-15-04 From: Portland, OR Since last post: 73 days Last activity: 60 days |
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| I don't pass judgement on those who do it, but I don't do it myself. I might enjoy it too damn much, really. Lord knows I have enough distractions as is. | |||
drjayphd Beamos What's that spell? pimp! Level: 56  Posts: 782/1477 EXP: 1387410 For next: 10766 Since: 03-15-04 From: CT Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| geeogree: Maybe it's not just the restrictions, but a lack of ambition in regards to the general populace? Although that could be a symptom and not the disease. Ooh, idea. I blame the Boomers.  |
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34 Posts: 211/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| so, since the government doesn't want a bunch of people allowed to do drugs all the time.... no one has ambition? what a joke.... |
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Lenina Goomba Level: 10  Posts: 17/32 EXP: 3266 For next: 1148 Since: 12-11-04 From: St. Andrews, Scotland/ Salem, CT USA Since last post: 289 days Last activity: 155 days |
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| Most things are alright in moderation. However this should give everyone something to think about. Do you ever hear of someone who is high beating his wife? Why should alcohol be legal and weed not? Alcohol causes a lot of domestic abuse and other things. Although, weed in general is harmful only to the person who smokes it. It is almost impossible to overdose of weed, someone would pass out before they could OD. Yet with alcohol many people are rushed to the emergency room with alcohol poisoning. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 1970/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by geeogree Ampsterdam. Japan. Vancouver. These places have booming economies, legal drug use for certain substances, and wait, what is that, they are motivated? HOW DOES IT WORK!? |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 1238/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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| A personal anecdote: My 4 friends shared a house last year. They purchased cable internet and cable TV, which runs $75 a month. The only problem was that they didn't have a router, or network cables. So they said, "Well we'll do that next weekend. We'll make it a note." And they smoked weed about 5-6 days a week. Months passed, and still no internet. And I thought it was stupid, them paying probably $40 ($75 minus the cost of cable TV) and not even utilizing their own internet service. About 3 months into the semester, probably around this time of the year, they up and stopped smoking pot for a whole week. That very weekend was when I finally went with them to get the router. Now, I would chalk it up maybe to coincidence if I didn't see lame crap like this all the time. Weed may not effect everyone exactly the same, but I strongly believe it will kill your long term initiative over time. And that's just how I feel about weed. Don't get me started on other stuff. I worry a lot about friends who often consume too much alcohol. Drugs are bad m'kay? |
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Arwon Zora Level: 35  Posts: 233/506 EXP: 278115 For next: 1821 Since: 03-15-04 From: Terra Australis Incognita Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 10 min. |
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| I think I'm missing something in all this... What's the point of initiative and productivity if you're not enjoying life? What exactly are people supposed to be working towards in this life? Is there some plan I don't know about? What's the point of abstaining from drinking and whatever else floats your boat just because excessive use might mess you up? Or because "I don't need them to have fun"? If you're a well-balanced person and use drugs in moderation it's not going to mess you up or kill you or whatever... if you're already fucked up drugs will probably make you worse. At any rate, I find the puritanical abstinence mindset a little obnoxious and condescending. "Drug free and proud"? Meh. I enjoy a drink, I like the occasional joint, and fucked if people are gonna preach to me about how pure and righteous they are because they don't. It's obnoxious. No-one is better than someone else just because they abstain from some of the enjoyable things in life. (edited by Arwon on 12-15-04 10:21 AM) |
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NSNick Laidback Admin Level: 85  Posts: 1464/3875 EXP: 5895841 For next: 2699 Since: 03-15-04 From: North Side School: OSU Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by ArwonEmphatic ditto. |
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34 Posts: 212/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| wow Ziff.... way to not understand what I was saying.... I highly doubt Japan, Amsterdam or Vancouver are any more or less motivated because drugs are legal.... there isn't any proof that I'm aware of that shows drug use imrpoves work habits or productivity.... |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 1971/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Link me to some definitive proof that this happens! I've known men that have smoked the ganja for ages, and guess what they do...They're lawyers. They're neurosurgeons. They're professionals that are going to be a hell of a lot more successful than you or I. I don't see what you're saying. How does the legalization of marijuana hurt society? Give me some proof. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 3258/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| I've known men that have smoked it for ages too. You can find them in parental basements and alleyways. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 1972/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Oh...Like... Jean Chretien Pierre Burton The Beatles Oscar Wilde Jack Layton And of course George Bush Well, George Bush does live in his dad's old house. (edited by Ziffski on 12-15-04 03:58 PM) (edited by Ziffski on 12-15-04 03:58 PM) |
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DurfarC Beezo Level: 33 Posts: 214/483 EXP: 218551 For next: 10628 Since: 09-04-04 From: Norway Since last post: 20 days Last activity: 12 hours |
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| I've never seen the points with drugs, although I know it's easy to get dependent on it. The problem is the first time people try drugs. "There goes one, and then another one... and another... *continues*" And I'm (partly) allergic to flour, so I can't even drink alcohol, unless it's not beer.  |
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NSNick Laidback Admin Level: 85 Posts: 1467/3875 EXP: 5895841 For next: 2699 Since: 03-15-04 From: North Side School: OSU Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by DurfarCLiquor is quicker.   |
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34 Posts: 213/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| "I highly doubt Japan, Amsterdam or Vancouver are any more or less motivated because drugs are legal.... there isn't any proof that I'm aware of that shows drug use imrpoves work habits or productivity...." Ziff.... learn how to read.... |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 1977/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by geeogree And I've yet to see your arguments on how it is bad. Learn how to read before you criticize. |
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34 Posts: 214/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| I never said I was going to criticize.... I just said that I haven't seen evidence to show that doing drugs makes you successful.... or improves work habits or productivity.... why would I show something to be bad, when you can't prove it's good |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 1978/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| I'm not claiming their good. Absolutely everything in this world is bad. I've yet to encounter something that is genuinely good. An absolute article of truth and admirable. I'm not saying they're going to make you successful (but you can tell that to the legions of musicians, authors, directors university students and people that are successful that use them ). I'm saying that the War on Drugs is detrimental to society and democracy. It limits us in our choices, it is a waste of resources and is a brutal waste of human life.Of course, if you find promoting the death of people, wasting huge amounts of money and denying democracy disadvantageous to the common man...Well, I just don't know. |
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34 Posts: 215/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| true democracy does not work though..... it can't.... not at this size and not with all the possible problems the world now has.... I agree.... the war on drugs hasn't worked.... but, that's not to say we should just give up on it.... I just can't look at a few hundred successful people.... many of whom started drugs after they became successful and could actually support the habit .... and think it's still okay.... many of those successful people killed themselves while doing drugs.... that just doesn't make sense.... I also can't ignore the thousands or millions of people that are stuck in dead end situations because of drugs.... I look at drugs and see more bad than good..... |
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