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What are you? Trying not to be against religon.| Pick one or if you are a mix of one. Also post when you are done. We would like to here about it. Also describe what you voted on. | Catholic |
13.7%, 7 votes | Budda |
3.9%, 2 votes | Christian |
39.2%, 20 votes | Jewish |
2.0%, 1 vote | Other: |
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Kario In Possession of a Stolen Shovel Level: 65 Posts: 1035/2082 EXP: 2321379 For next: 14249 Since: 03-15-04 From: Texas... Yeehaw! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 17 hours |
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| He didn't go to hell. Before Jesus died, everyone who died went down. Some went to Hell, some to Paradise. When Jesus died, he went to get the people out of Paradise and take them to heaven. | |||
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 3413/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Whuh? Doesn't the bible specifically say he went to hell? |
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Kario In Possession of a Stolen Shovel Level: 65 Posts: 1036/2082 EXP: 2321379 For next: 14249 Since: 03-15-04 From: Texas... Yeehaw! Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 17 hours |
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| I don't think it does. *checks bible..... Hrmmmm....can't find anything either way. Gonna be up all night studying this one. I do know the old testament talks about it being Paradise and Hades. The story of Lazarus and the rich man talks about the rich man being in hell, and he sees Lazarus afar off in Abrahams bosom. Which is paradise from the OT. Dunno, gonna find it, will post tomorrow. (edited by Kario on 12-28-04 04:31 AM) |
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34  Posts: 237/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| the bible is -not- clear on whether Jesus actually went to hell..... not every christian sect believes that ziff: thanks.... I realize that.... don't patronize me.... it may not be his choice to believe, but he still believes.... |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 2156/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Protestants don't believe Jesus went to Hell. Catholics believe, as the original Church, that Jesus when he went down to Hell destroyed the bridges over the Malbolges, weakening Satan. In Dante's Inferno they refer to him as the Shaker. Funny, but relating to his Holiness resonating through the decripts reaches of Hell. The earthquakes he caused created Mount Purgatory, allowing God's forgiveness to reach those who are pious, but made mistakes. This allows them to repent and gain entry to Heaven. It also works on the non-Baptized, because prior to Mount Purgatory all Pagans who died but were virtous were sentenced to Limbo. It is basic Catholic doctrine. And Geogree, he doesn't believe, God believes in Himself based on his ideals. If we want to get into Biblical dating, the original book cataloguing Jesus' decent to Hell was striken at the Council of Nicea as well as three other books (the concept of the bible having 80 books or something like that is preposterous, there were THOUSANDS of collections of Christ's life, but the Greeks only collected the most complete and sensicle). And then when the Rome was sacked by the Vandals, the original copies of the compiled Bible were lost. Thus a lot of information was gone when the scribes had to rewrite it. Then the Luteran and Protestant Reformation caused even more upheaval, as the concepts of Pre-Destination and opposing everything Catholic came into play. |
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34 Posts: 239/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| "the bible is -not- clear" I didn't ask for dogma, and way to quote the bible.... |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 2165/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by geeogree Originally posted by Ziffski  History ain't Dogma!(edited by Ziffski on 12-28-04 02:19 PM) |
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34 Posts: 241/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| see.... you really didn't answer the question of whether the bible is actually clear or not.... you quoted no verses.... you just said that the "book cataloguing Jesus' decent to Hell was striken at the Council of Nicea as well as three other books" so, technically you didn't even use the bible  |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 2167/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Technically, you aren't using it either, your point? Tell me a piece of the Bible where it specifically says "Jesus didn't go to Hell" (quote info here). I'm also going to need the version, translator and funder of the Bible run. So technically. I'm using history to explain the absense of a closely held Catholic belief from the Bible. As I said before: Originally posted by ZiffskiOriginally posted by geeogree (edited by Ziffski on 12-28-04 02:23 PM) |
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windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61  Posts: 822/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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| It's actually in the Crede (sp?) that Jesus decended into hell before he was resurrected (and I believe in the bible as well). I'm Lutheran (a subdivision of the protestants), and we recite the Crede at our church, AND believe Jesus decended into hell before he was resurrected . And it's the most liberal church in vancouver. (edited by windwaker on 12-28-04 02:50 PM) |
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34 Posts: 244/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| windwaker: if it is in the bible, then show me where | |||
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windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61 Posts: 823/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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| It's in the new testament somewhere, in the first four gospels. Find it yourself . |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 2169/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Yeah, the Apostle's Creed. | |||
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34 Posts: 246/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| why should I find it myself.... you're the one that claims it is there | |||
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windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61 Posts: 824/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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| No, you're the one who says it isn't there . Yeah, it's in the Apostle's Creed, which oddly enough, I think is recited by both the protestant church, and the catholic church. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 2171/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Protestants just drop the "I believe in the communion, and Holy Catholic Church". | |||
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windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61 Posts: 826/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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| Actually, for us, that's not totally true. We keep the "Holy Catholic Church", because it doesn't literally mean the Roman Catholic Church, it means more of a standard church, just like believing in church (if that makes sense). We drop the communion thing though. |
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34 Posts: 247/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| windwaker: actually, I asked you to show me where it was, if it is indeed in there.... you claim it is, I claim it isn't.... I can't quote you the whole bible to be able to prove it's not there.... that doesn't make sense.... but you can find it in order to prove me wrong.... |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 2174/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| You could find passages saying that Jesus DIDN'T go to Hell...But you won't. | |||
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Cymoro PATRICK DUFFY WILL LASER YOUR SOUL   Level: 67  Posts: 1538/2216 EXP: 2549743 For next: 43129 Since: 03-15-04 From: Cymoro Gaming Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Geeogree: Take your pick. |
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