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The SomerZ Summer, yay! Level: 45  Posts: 610/862 EXP: 618182 For next: 41982 Since: 03-15-04 From: Norway Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Today is the World AIDS Day. According to a pamphlet handed out at school today, more than 10 000 are infected with HIV/AIDS every day. Despite of the astounding number, despite the fact that AIDS is becoming the new black plague, parents of schoolchildren in many countries refuse to let their kids have sex ed, thinking everything will be alright if they never learn how to protect themselves. In African countries, where the problem is the biggest, Catholic leaders ban condoms from being used, saying it is offensive to God. All over the world, people are infected, without even knowing it. The only way to battle AIDS is by teaching safe sex, and practicing it, yet this seems to be offensive to some, for reasons I cannot fathom. (edited by The SomerZ on 12-01-04 09:51 AM) |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 1790/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| And to think, all it will take is 10 million dollars of US currency for medicine to cut the number of new AIDS transmissions in half for Africa, and a billion dollars to eradicate it from that continent. Oh, and Brazilian scientists just tested an AIDS vaccine with an 80% success rate. |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 1812/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| promising news in the fight against AIDS... as for the catholics forbidding condoms, I wonder what is their plan for stopping spread of AIDS, abstinence? Well, that works if their followers are dedicated enough... | |||
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 1796/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| The Vatican decided to tamper where it really shouldn't and released a report saying that condoms can't stop the spread of AIDS. The African bishops disseminated the information to their parishoners. | |||
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 3119/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by Ziffski If we did that, people would still find a reason to bitch at us somehow, someway. "What did that virus ever do to you? Hate mongers!!!" But why us though? Why does it have to be our money? Why not someone else? We do plenty for foreign aid as it is. I'm not saying we shouldn't, I'm just wondering why you emphasized on us. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 1798/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| US currency is the general world currency. And I'm quoting Steven Lewis on those numbers. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 3121/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Ah, it just dawned on me what you meant. Ok, I see what you're saying now. Oh, and who's that guy? |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 1799/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by |+Legion+| Ex-Canadian diplomat. Leader of the NDP during the 70s. One of the foremost experts on the social implications and remedies for AIDS. |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 6355/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| Thanks to Google I found this out. We gotta love Google... In my personal opinion, teenagers are gonna have sex probably anyway. I don't say they should promote sex, but they should promote usage of Condomns. Hell the campagings here are far from promoting sex. But sex is of course not the only way the disease spread in...  |
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windwaker Ball and Chain Trooper WHY ALL THE MAYONNAISE HATE Level: 61  Posts: 477/1797 EXP: 1860597 For next: 15999 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 6 days |
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You know, the war in Iraq could have funded 13 years of AIDS research  .In my personal opinion, teenagers are gonna have sex probably anyway. I don't say they should promote sex, but they should promote usage of Condomns. Yes! I mean, teaching abstinence is fine and all, but kids also need to be taught what to do if they have sex before they're married. |
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hhallahh Bob-Omb Level: 38  Posts: 448/607 EXP: 365476 For next: 4971 Since: 03-15-04 From: Portland, OR Since last post: 73 days Last activity: 60 days |
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Originally posted by Ziffski Where the hell does this figure come from? The U.S. has already pledged hundreds of millions to Africa for this purpose, I believe. What would 10 million more do? |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 3128/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by windwaker So what? I'm sure how ever much money is being dumped into cancer research would do about the same thing to. What's your point? |
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geeogree Bloober Level: 34  Posts: 198/448 EXP: 231583 For next: 22068 Since: 03-16-04 From: Calgary, Canada Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 11 hours |
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| I think his point was something along the line of "if Bush hadn't started his war for [insert your other reason here], then he would have had all that money to spend elsewhere" I think.... and as much as I agree.... he wouldn't have spent it that way.... but it's still a point to make |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 3133/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Again, what's the point? It's like saying "If we would have never spent all that money on cancer research, we would could have used it for AIDS research." |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 1801/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by hhallahhOriginally posted by Ziffski No, that is their total budget that goes to funding beauracratic endevours. It is unfocused and the "aid" goes to the corrupted government in the region. It never reaches the people. 10 million dollars given to a NGO would slow the progress of AIDS considerably. And had you read the thread hgallahah you would've noticed the name "Steven Lewis" and the words "And I'm quoting...On those numbers" (Ziff, 2004, post 1798) |
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Dracoon Zelda The temp ban/forum ban bypasser! Level: 84  Posts: 1794/3727 EXP: 5514391 For next: 147561 Since: 03-25-04 From: At home Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| (Finally something I know a little about) Ziff makes a good point, about how the money never reaches the people, all the governments take the money and don't help the people. (This is why you have problems in Sudan) If you give it to an organization that's purpose is to do whatever, they'll do it (or lose funding) and it will work much better than us just donating to some country that won't do anything with the money. The UNFPA, for example, would do a better job with building the clinics and everything in Afghanistan than the Afghan government would if we just gave them the money directly. (UNFPA stands for United Nations Population Fund... makes no sense to me...) |
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Ramadan Roy Like Like ...Or you'll be wearing your ass for a hat. Renowned Otaku Level: 44 Posts: 462/816 EXP: 569705 For next: 41580 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 13 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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| This may be a little off topic, but...The people who really get on my nerves are those who actually say "Why should America spend that much money on OTHER countries?" First of all, diseases like AIDS CAN and DO hit America in large numbers. Second, diseases like malaria, more specifically the Anopheles strain, need more money and research put into them. It's a mutating disease and if it's not controlled, it can spread to Europe and even in the US and Canada and decimate a large percentage of the world's population, infected a larger amount of other people. | |||
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 3143/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Well yeah, that's why we do spend money on other countries for AIDS research. And all your guys pal Bush gave a shitload of money to Africa...uh...I forgot exactly when. But it wasn't too long ago. But of course you guys were probably to busy talking about the pretzel incident again to even notice. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99 Posts: 1808/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Oh, you mean the 100 million over 10 years deal? Which only goes to the richer African nations? | |||
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 3144/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| I don't know if that's true or not, but let's just say it is. This is my response: "Oh, yeah. You're right. We should have just kept it to ourselves." It doesn't matter how we give it, or who we give it to. We still made the conscious choice to GIVE. Why do you people always have to put every positive thing we do in a negative light? Seriously, why? If the US send every non-US citizen 1000 dollars, I swear people would be like "Oh sure, NOW you give us money when your dollar is at the lowest it's been in years. YOU INGRATES!" |
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