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Posted on 11-26-04 06:33 AM Link | Quote
Well I want to copy the files from my Windows XP disc to my harddrive and install it from there. The installation thing always messes up and stops seeing the CD-ROM drive. Anyways: do I just copy everything to a folder and then install Windows XP from that or is there a trick to it?
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I don't think there's any way to install XP without using the CD (besides warez) It almost sounds like there's something wrong with your CD drive. You might try taking it to another computer, and see if XP will install there. If not, then I'd guess something's the matter with your CD, in which case you'll have to look at some way of getting a replacement.

One other thing I thought of, which is probably not very legal, is this:

1) Get a second hard drive (it'll obviously need some sort of Windows OS installed), and make an ISO of the XP CD, and save it to that second hard drive
2) Get a CD Image mounting program (I use Alcohol 52%), and mount the ISO to the virtual drive
3) From there, try installing XP to your other hard drive.

I don't believe it would work with 1 hard drive, unless you made two partitions, but I'm pretty XP formats the drive to NTFS format during the install, which would most likely wipe any partitions you'd made. Of course, hard drives these days aren't very cheap, but I imagine you should be able to find someone that'd be willing to sell you a smaller-capacity drive for cheap.

Note that the second suggestion should only be taken as a last resort I'm not saying you have to do that, but if you've run out of options, that might work.
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I remember when I was having problems with installing Windows 98, my dad copied the cab files to my computer and installed off of that. Cant that be done on XP?
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Posted on 11-26-04 10:51 AM Link | Quote
I imagine it could. That thought never came to mind, but I won't make any yes or no statements, since I've never tried that before, and I don't know what it'll do. Sorry

In the way of helping you though, I ran across this site on microsoft.com. Take a read through there and see if any of that helps
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Originally posted by Karadur
I imagine it could. That thought never came to mind, but I won't make any yes or no statements, since I've never tried that before, and I don't know what it'll do. Sorry

In the way of helping you though, I ran across this site on microsoft.com. Take a read through there and see if any of that helps


Doesnt really help, but thanks for checking ^^
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Posted on 11-26-04 12:41 PM Link | Quote
I won't give up I found this now:

http://kadaitcha.cx/cannot_install.html

This is the one thing that caught my eye:

...Once that is done, you will install Windows XP from your hard disk instead of from the XP CD.

Unfortunately, unless I'm missing something very obvious, I don't see anywhere on that site that tells you what files you'd need to copy, etc I'd guess all of them, but I can't be too sure.

At any rate, with luck, maybe that's what you need

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This should be simpiler than you might think:
1. Partition the hard disk so you have FAT32 as your soon-to-be-XP partition.
2. Install MS-DOS 7.1 on that. Just download the CD version, burn it, and boot from that (it will work, XP not detecting it is not the same).
3. Once that's done, copy (use xcopy) the D:\i386 directory of your XP disc to your C: drive.
4. Start C:\i386\WINNT.EXE - That's the setup program

Now that should work. I don't have the XP disc in handy, but that's how to do it wtih Win2000


(edited by FreeDOS on 11-26-04 07:01 PM)
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Posted on 11-27-04 05:35 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Karadur
I'm pretty XP formats the drive to NTFS format during the install, which would most likely wipe any partitions you'd made.

I would certainly hope formatting one partition wouldn't wipe out the others. If it does, something's gone seriously wrong.
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Originally posted by HyperHacker
I would certainly hope formatting one partition wouldn't wipe out the others. If it does, something's gone seriously wrong.



Then I was wrong The reason I assumed that is because I've never formatted a hard drive that had partitions on it before. From what I knew, formatting the hard drive wiped everything on it, and I guessed partitions were included I've learned something today

Following up on what FreeDOS said, those steps should work with XP. Look here. That thing includes more steps than FreeDOS's, but it's pretty much still the same thing. That just assumes that you have the CD.


(edited by Karadur on 11-26-04 09:36 PM)
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Posted on 11-27-04 11:50 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Karadur
I won't give up I found this now:

http://kadaitcha.cx/cannot_install.html

This is the one thing that caught my eye:

...Once that is done, you will install Windows XP from your hard disk instead of from the XP CD.

Unfortunately, unless I'm missing something very obvious, I don't see anywhere on that site that tells you what files you'd need to copy, etc I'd guess all of them, but I can't be too sure.

At any rate, with luck, maybe that's what you need




Thanks. I'll try that right now.
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Posted on 11-27-04 12:13 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Karadur
Then I was wrong The reason I assumed that is because I've never formatted a hard drive that had partitions on it before. From what I knew, formatting the hard drive wiped everything on it, and I guessed partitions were included I've learned something today
Every hard drive has a partition on it. Even if it's only using one driveletter/mountpoint, it still has atleast one partition.

The problem is that most people don't understand exactally what the formatting process involves. All a format does is write a filesystem to a specific device or partition. In the case of XP, Windows will write the NTFS 5 filesystem to any type 0x07 (I think) partition.
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