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neotransotaku

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Posted on 11-23-04 12:49 AM Link | Quote
Documents secretly encoded by color printers

In a nutshell, depending on your printer, information about where it comes and what computer was used to print from is written into the page...basically, when you print a page, an almost "transparent" fingerprint is also put on it...

scary if you think about it...

so, question is, should something like this be done or not?
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Posted on 11-23-04 12:57 AM Link | Quote
Oh my god! That's scary! I'm happy that I've "only" got a black/white laser printer. :/
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Posted on 11-23-04 01:06 AM Link | Quote
They said laser printers my friend.

I'm just saddened with the passing of my beloved vintage Dot Matrix black and white printer. It was truly a beautiful piece of work, it kept going after all the (sexual) abuse I put it through...Printing off pornography just to see how funny it would look on that printer.

But this is a serious intrusion into people's privacy. And it should be rectified, because if private finance documents are traced through some database cracking, people could easily increase the amount of identification theft there is.
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Posted on 11-23-04 04:39 AM Link | Quote
This is just like typewriters, every typewriter was a little bit different from another due to the mechanics, so it was possible to tell what came from which typewriter.
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Posted on 11-23-04 02:08 PM Link | Quote
with typewriters, it was a byproduct of the design. something like that can't be helped since there really isn't another way to design the mechanics. This, however, has nothing to do with the mechanics. It is another step in the process that is essentially optional. Removing that extra signature feature does not change what gets printed as a whole.
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Posted on 11-24-04 01:30 AM Link | Quote
Pretty soon, Big Brother is going to ban all those documents that have too big of words on them

And then... and then... no one will be allowed to read at all soon... and then... and then... we'll be watching executions on TV, and having bombshells fly all around us without a care... and uh... I'll join Big Brother




This is some scary shit though.
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Posted on 11-24-04 01:49 AM Link | Quote
I have a laser printer, an B&W one. So heh i'm not really worried.

Besides, I doubt HP haves my home address. Unless the shop gives out that kind of information to them in Sweden. Hell we can contact HP and ask them if they have any information about us and we can change it... if it's wrong.
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Posted on 11-24-04 07:06 AM Link | Quote
I'd think it'd be actually not too bad a thing. One more step that can be used for verifying something actually comes from a certain source. And if someone getting a hold of some printed document and being able to trace it to you would allow them to easily steal your identity... You need to seriously rethink what you're doing.
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Posted on 11-24-04 12:56 PM Link | Quote
We have a 6 year old printer and we
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Posted on 11-24-04 01:01 PM Link | Quote
Saw this on Slashdot very recently, and it doesn't surprise me at all. Doesn't surprise me that it's been going on for a long time either.

The fact that Lexmark's printer drivers spy on you surprised me slightly more, but when I think about it, I don't know why I'm surprised at all.

Bleh, I miss the old HP printers.
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Posted on 11-24-04 01:14 PM Link | Quote
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Posted on 11-27-04 08:59 AM Link | Quote
What you do is simply switch the color chambers around and, in a program like Photoshop, change the colors accordingly so that when you print, it prints right, but the police will be looking for the wrong color.

Besides, cash = untraceable.
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Posted on 11-27-04 12:52 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Cymoro

Besides, cash = untraceable.


Not true. I'm sure you know of the strips they put in $5 dollar bills and above? Well, those are scanned in a lot of places you go but most noticeably, airports. Pass through a metal detector and they know exactly how much cash you have, and where you are.
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Posted on 11-27-04 08:52 PM Link | Quote
Umm... Leg? If you're in an airport, they know where you are anyway. Probably misworded that.

Anyway, I think it's bullshit, really. But hey, I never print things anyway. And besides, we have inkjet printers, I think...
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Posted on 11-27-04 09:38 PM Link | Quote
Cash is untraceable. If you keep all of your money in bills and coin, after about two circulations it becomes completely "lost" to the system. #1 reason why the gov. puts money into Interac and other plastic money programs.
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Posted on 11-28-04 05:47 AM Link | Quote
Leg: It's near impossible for someone to get your identification and location of residence from a $5 that you spent somewhere.

Also, registering your products supports communism =D
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Posted on 12-14-04 06:44 PM Link | Quote
There was an episode of Law & Order that used something along these lines. They were able to trace a piece of printed paper back to the manufacturer, which only provided the paper to schools. Then at the school, the detectives were are to trace it to a certain computer. It was sort of freaky. I don
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Posted on 12-14-04 10:34 PM Link | Quote
Welll... I have two Laserjet IIP printers... heh heh heh...

And a CanonS300, but all we print are pictures and school documents, with the school documents being put in folders tat trace back to us anyway.

So I'm not worried.
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