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What type of account do you are logged in when using the internet on your computer?
People which are using Windows 2000/XP, or any other OS with different account options, can decide whether to use the computer with full powers as an administrator - or restricted ones with missing powers, such as no ability to install software. What one do you use when you are using the net?
Admin forever - why should I make another account where I can't install software and such?
 
75.9%, 22 votes
Not at all - I don't need admin powers simply for using the internet
 
17.2%, 5 votes
I'm running Windows 9x/ME or another OS with no account management (always admin)
 
6.9%, 2 votes
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Posted on 11-17-04 11:06 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Karadur
Also, Limited users are subject to quotas if you've got them set up (I'm talking about XP here). I'd hate to have a limited amount of storage space to work with (not that you don't even as an Admin, but there it's the whole hard drive space)

Quotas are nice because they can warn you when you're using up too much space. It sucks that you can't set it to unlimited space with a warning, but I just set it to a coupla billion GB (6 EB) and it works.
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Posted on 11-17-04 11:48 PM Link | Quote
There was a tool in Windows 95 to warn you about low disk space, at any set limit you want. Without quotas... odd that XP wouldn't have that.

I read HH's post now. Using root is not dangerous if you know what you're doing. But it's unnecessary to use it. The Windows NT Administrator group is pratically the only one that's allowed to do anything, that's not the case in *nix. Also, root gives more power over the system than the Windows equivalent does.
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Posted on 11-18-04 06:05 AM Link | Quote
Seeing as I'm the only person who uses this computer now, my sisters are never here and I'm tossing their accounts, I've forced to have an admin account. Which is fine.
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Posted on 11-18-04 10:42 AM Link | Quote
I almost never browse the web as root, and I rarely download random software I encounter. If I need root powers, I just bring up an xterm and use the su command to get a root prompt on said xterm, or I switch to the first virtual console which I tend to leave logged in as root.

If I need to install software, I will first look for it in the Debian package archive. If I need software that is not in the Debian archive, I prefer to download the source code, compile it myself, and then run the compiled program from wherever the compilation script places the binaries. When I do the latter, I do not need to log in as root, because the software was not installed.

Originally posted by HyperHacker
Speaking of which, isn't there a way to create an account as System, like being able to modify any file and such? Supposedly there's an option but I can't find it. Of course I wouldn't use it all the time, that's rather dangerous.


I know of no cut and dried instructions, but these pages might help:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/7/4/7570/05276
http://neworder.box.sk/files/nullak_ntsecurity/index.php

Hacking the end off of the latter URL leads to an interesting site.
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Posted on 11-18-04 04:13 PM Link | Quote
My comp, my rules. Simple as that.

Personally, I don't want my sister fscking with my comp with her DLs or something every time I go off to class, so it's a nice addition.
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Posted on 11-18-04 05:49 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by HyperHacker
Quotas are nice because they can warn you when you're using up too much space. It sucks that you can't set it to unlimited space with a warning, but I just set it to a coupla billion GB (6 EB) and it works.
I don't believe the FAT32 file system supports quotas... So there you go.

I'm always admin. Mainly because I change something every time I use my computer. Even back when I used IE as browser, I was always admin. I don't know how but I just have the ability to keep my PC clean nomatter what happens. I haven't had an anti-virus program since I had Windows 98.


(edited by Kieran on 11-18-04 08:50 AM)
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Posted on 11-19-04 08:51 AM Link | Quote
I'm yet another Linux person who does virtually everything from a normal user account and just uses su to get root within a terminal when it is necessary to install something, configure something, change file permissions, etc.
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Posted on 11-19-04 08:59 AM Link | Quote
I don't let anyone use my baby, so the answer's kinda obvious. Me only need one profile.
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Posted on 11-19-04 09:26 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Colleen
I don't let anyone use my baby, so the answer's kinda obvious. Me only need one profile.


Heh. If I had a choice, nobody else would use this computer. Of course, that's not possible, since my Dad bought it, but still, I'd sit here and watch what each and everyone did when they go on this computer. I went away for a night last weekend, and I came back to find pr0n URLs in the address list I installed a keylogger shortly after that, and I didn't say it, but I dare whoever looked at what they did to do it again.

That's the only problem with everyone else being on limited accounts, is that my brother likes to listen to music, but all the music on the computer is in a folder on my desktop, so only I can access it. My sister wants to play some game that she downloads, but she can't install it, so I have to install it with my rights, and lo, the game won't run under a limited profile My Dad's the only one that's good for the computer, since he doesn't use it too often, and even then it's only to check / send email or some other short thing on the internet.
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Posted on 11-19-04 11:25 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Karadur
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That's the only problem with everyone else being on limited accounts, is that my brother likes to listen to music, but all the music on the computer is in a folder on my desktop, so only I can access it.

What about copying the music folder to your sister's profile ?
An admin can access all limited accounts anyway, if not, simply copy it into the Shared Documents folder. So you won't need to get her admin powers just for listening music. Only Winamp Playlists and shortcuts needed to be updated only once.


My sister wants to play some game that she downloads, but she can't install it, so I have to install it with my rights, and lo, the game won't run under a limited profile

Try to use the "Run As ..." option when you right-click an executable file in your sister's limited account. The other checkbox prompts you to use another account (don't worry, the password stays invisible and the chars are replaced by stars/dots) - it does not work for every program, but mostly the program simply starts in context of the user set up in Run As ... - it might be worth a shot
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Posted on 11-19-04 12:01 PM Link | Quote
I would've done something related to copying the music folder quite a while ago, except for one small thing: there's almost 8Gb of music in there (half of that is music from game soundtracks) I used to let them stay on my account so they could listen to music or whatever, but since said incident that happened over the weekend, I've changed my thinking on that.

I've used the 'Run As...' option for Winamp on my brother's account a couple times, since it would let him listen to music that was stored under my profile. I might just move the music he wants to listen to over to the shared folder or somewhere in his profile. I find I don't listen to half of it anymore anyways, so I might be able to just delete the stuff nobody wants.

Why couldn't they have made some sort of tool that allows you to create custom user levels? It'd save all this hassle.
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Posted on 12-04-04 11:34 PM Link | Quote
I use a restricted account for just about everything...when I need to be root, I'll just "su" and enter the password.
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