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Legion
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Posted on 11-05-04 03:29 PM Link | Quote


See, when I said it, it was a joke. I had previously said many times with much fervor that people who said they were moving because of Bush being re-elected made me sick. So I thought it would be funny...

Ah, forget it. My jokes never work here.

But Hillary as President would be horrible. And you know she would get votes soley for the fact that she's a woman. Ugh. And hey! She already was the President. har har har
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Posted on 11-05-04 03:45 PM Link | Quote
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Posted on 11-05-04 04:51 PM Link | Quote
And I just want to move to Figi. *shurgs*

But anyway, I don't care if she was a man, thing, three-eyed monster, I just don't like her. She seems a bit fake to me. And as for Bill, he was a great talker, but that's about it, me thinks.

But I have to head off to work right now, so I can't give more of my say....then again, I really don't have that much to say anyway, so...umm...yea.
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Posted on 11-05-04 11:33 PM Link | Quote
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Posted on 11-06-04 12:51 AM Link | Quote
Belive me you rather want Hillary Clinton as president than Gudrun Schyman. (yes, she was the nut who wanted man tax. It never got through since everyone besides her thought it was a stupid idea. But the news papers and sites picked it up... )

Honestly, is she that bad? Wouldn't there be worser womans as presidents?
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Posted on 11-06-04 12:32 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kasumi-Astra
I find some of the opinions expressed here quite upsetting... I can't see why everyone would want to move out when the US already has the worst case scenario President in office right now.
We haven't even seen her policies yet.


Compared to what America has just done to its self with George Bush, she'd be wonderful.

Everyone keeps saying that they don't like her, but why? Give me an exact reason and example.

~Delial


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Posted on 11-09-04 01:24 AM Link | Quote
Legion, don't worry, some of us got it =D I guess some people just don't read most of your posts. I was just a little late on the uptake I guess... weekends away from home make my posts awfully late.

I have a question really quickly because I'm really too lazy and too busy to look up all the information I'd need to inform myself bout this, so does anyone know the details about White Water? Not sure if that's two words or one. From what I understand, that's the main reason why people don't like Hillary. Besides the fact that she tried to steal stuff from the White House...
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Posted on 11-12-04 03:12 PM Link | Quote
Kasumi-Astra, we most certainly have heard her politics. She's an anti-male bigot and a "government-knows-best" socialist.

Hillary Clinton once said "Women are the real victims of war. They lose husbands, sons..."

In a world where only men get drafted, and over 99% of military deaths are male, she claims that her sex are the real victims!?

She's going to get lots of votes from women just because she's female. And because there are nearly 20% more women eligible to vote than men (you know, with them not having to die in war and all), she can pander to them and win the election.

The US has never had a female president and I'd love to see one. But so far the only candidate is Hillary. Who else can run?

If she runs against Rudy in 2008, I'm switching to the Republican party. I don't live in the US and can't vote in the primaries, but I still have citizenship and plan to keep voting until the US gets someone good in office.
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Posted on 11-12-04 08:48 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Heian-794
Kasumi-Astra, we most certainly have heard her politics. She's an anti-male bigot and a "government-knows-best" socialist.

Hillary Clinton once said "Women are the real victims of war. They lose husbands, sons..."

In a world where only men get drafted, and over 99% of military deaths are male, she claims that her sex are the real victims!?


Simple explanation of what she's thinking (though I don't agree with it either): men die, their suffering is over. Women live on, watching the important men in their life die...and have to carry the grief and burden 'till the end of their days. *shrugs*

As to socialism...what's wrong with it? I'd like to hear somebody actually explain this for once, rather than just say it's bad and nothing more.


If we still have a country in 2008...it'd be nice to see a change in pace like having a woman call the shots. Possibly have Bob Dole's wife (I can't remember her first name...is it Patricia?) run against her on the Republican platform...just to shake things up.

Somethin' I remember from a few years ago...Jesse Ventura on the Tonight Show. Looked Jay right in the face and talked about his post-wrestling career: lived in a town in Minnesota for awhile, ran for Mayor, won it, served one term, got out, had a state-wide radio program for a few years, ran for Governor, won it, served one term, got out, and said he got a nation-wide program on MSNBC...leaving an implication on the end. I think we're gonna have an honest third contender...if the increasingly crummy economy keeps the USA still alive by the time 2008 rolls around.
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Posted on 11-13-04 04:31 AM Link | Quote
How the hell am I supposed to decide if I want her as president or not? I barely know anything about her; making a decision now is pointless.
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Posted on 11-13-04 08:59 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by windwaker
How the hell am I supposed to decide if I want her as president or not? I barely know anything about her; making a decision now is pointless.


Usually candidates start making themselves known about 2 years or less before the election... John Kerry decided to not make himself known really until 8 months before, and that probably bit him in the ass a bit. Hilary would start a little earlier if she was serious about running (and all signs point to this being the case).
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Posted on 11-13-04 12:36 PM Link | Quote
As to socialism...what's wrong with it? I'd like to hear somebody actually explain this for once, rather than just say it's bad and nothing more.

Well, the simple explanation is that not everybody likes having the government involved in their lives. "But others do want this," you may say. Well, in a hyper-libertarian society where government is restricted to the bare essentials, those people can always go form a commune somewhere where everyone contributes all or most of their work to the public good. But try creating an island of libertarianism in a hyper-socialist/communist nation! The government would have you in jail the moment you refused to pay your taxes! Thus a society with extremely limited government, with opportunities for people to create communal havens at the local level, will meet everyone's needs best.

I myself would be happy to live in a small socialist enclave where I personally knew everyone in the society. But I wouldn't give up my money and labor for people I'll never come in contact with.
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