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Posted on 11-05-04 02:59 AM Link | Quote
I know the election came to an end yesterday, but I've been reading the papers today and I'm glad Kerry didn't get in. Now, in 2008, we get to see something really special happening.
In 2008, it is Hillary Clinton's turn to run as the Democrat candidate for president.

Now that is something well worth staying up 'till 6am GMT to watch, whether or not you are behind her... Personally, I think she's great and she'll make a good president. To be honest, why do you think she took Bill back? (ie, I want to see her bitchslapping the rest of the men in politics around the world )
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Posted on 11-05-04 03:03 AM Link | Quote
If Hillary Clinton becomes president, I'm moving to Canada.
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Posted on 11-05-04 03:07 AM Link | Quote
I heard Rudy Giuliani (former New York City mayor) is running for the Republicans in '08.

Just saying.

Edit: We desperately need at least one SNL sketch of this happening.


(edited by Cymoro on 11-04-04 06:32 PM)
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Posted on 11-05-04 03:07 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Legion
If Hillary Clinton becomes president, I'm moving to Canada.


Originally posted by Legion
I heard today that some military members said that if Bush wins, they're going AWOL. That sickens me to my stomach.

I'll tell you what a sad day in America is. It's when people start basing their opinion on everything America stands for on ONE man and one man alone. Most of you don't know a damn thing about my country. What's worse? Most of you are Americans. I don't expect a foreigner to have an accurate portrayal of what my country is or what it stands for. But the rest of you who turn on your country soley due to one man? You disgust me. You do not deserve to live here. Go away.

I'd just like to state for the record that it doesn't matter to me who the President is in the long run. Nothing and no one can ever make me hate my country. Ever.




I think it's nice that a female will run for president, first time I've ever seen it anyway. It'll be very interesting to see.
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Jiz.........omfg.

You just pulled a damn Neko. Hit yourself now.
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Originally posted by Legion
Jiz.........omfg.

You just pulled a damn Neko. Hit yourself now.
I was messing with you, I know you're not that stupid. Hence why I posted the quote, to counter sarcasm your sarcasm.
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Posted on 11-05-04 03:20 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Kasumi-Astra
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In 2008, it is Hillary Clinton's turn to run as the Democrat candidate for president.


Maybe once she gets declared their candidate. Politics generally isn't like passing the bong, the brotha on your left ain't always the one who gets it.

And if she wins, she will suck, she is annoying. And if she goes agains the Guilani, say good bye.
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Posted on 11-05-04 03:21 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Legion
If Hillary Clinton becomes president, I'm moving to Canada.


I second that. Actually...Figi. It's tropical and futher away.
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Posted on 11-05-04 03:30 AM Link | Quote
If Hilary Clinton ran against Rudolph Guliani, there would be absoloutly no possible way in the entire universe she would win.
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Posted on 11-05-04 03:50 AM Link | Quote
I have nothing against Hillary, but, she won't win in 2008 if she runs then. Why? 22% of people voted on morals this election and it shows this trend is rising. On grass root morality, women should know their place and to many, the presidency is no place for a woman.

Note: This is not my view, but this is the vast majority of backward America's.


(edited by Rebecca Daise on 11-04-04 06:51 PM)
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Posted on 11-05-04 04:13 AM Link | Quote
If Guiliani enters the presidential race, I will post the biggest Fatality sign ever.

EDIT: EVER.


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Posted on 11-05-04 04:26 AM Link | Quote
I would rather have him as president if the only other option was a Clinton. If she wins in 2008, Im going to college outside the US.
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Posted on 11-05-04 04:34 AM Link | Quote
I'm moving when I get older anyways... At least I think ...

Seriously, I am tired of people having T.V. and the internet, but not knowing that the government lies to them on a daily basis.

If Hilary wins, I will lose all faith in humanity, become a theologist, study the bible (and other things I guees), pinpoint the date of the end of the world, and declare that the world is going to end exactly one day before the end of the world. No one will believe me and all will die. YAY!
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Posted on 11-05-04 05:08 AM Link | Quote
Something you're forgetting when you are saying two days after an election who will be running in the next one:

Those candidates you mentioned have to compete against others in their party before they get the nod.

Hilary Clinton, as capable as she may be, will probably have to compete against some other worthy senators from states like... well, perhaps Iowa, and Washington... i.e. you can't assume she will get the nod, especially since she is a woman, and, whether we like it or not, that does have a political effect against her.

Rudy will have to compete against several others as well, perhaps including Cheney, even though he will be 70+ years old by then. All Rudy has going for him is that he happened to be the mayor in New York at the time that 9/11 happened, so he was then perceived as a hero for some reason. Granted, during his time as mayor, crime went down in New York, but not a whole lot else happened. Who knows who might run for president for the Republicans? Hell, Tom Delay (another guy from Texas... but perhaps even more of a nutcase than Bush) could attempt to run, but I certainly hope he wouldn't get the nod. I know Delay's nephew... and he's just as much a nutcase as Tom is. "It is a necessity that every American owns a gun for their own protection as well as recreation."

Yea, how many people do you think would want him on the ticket after hearing him say that? Well, his nephew told me anyway that he will attempt to become the president in 2008. His nephew also boldly predicted that he would win at least one primary.

Anyway, too many possibilities for presidential candidates in 2008. Hell, Gore might even try to run again.

But one way or another, I think it would be very hard for Hilary to get past the primaries and go on to get the nod for the Democratic Party.
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Posted on 11-05-04 05:53 AM Link | Quote
All of you are noting the negative effect Hilary's gender has, but what about the impact it'll have on female votes? Would it drive up female voter turnout? Would the vast majority of females vote based on gender alone?

But no, I think she'd still lose.
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Posted on 11-05-04 06:43 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by NSNick
All of you are noting the negative effect Hilary's gender has, but what about the impact it'll have on female votes? Would it drive up female voter turnout? Would the vast majority of females vote based on gender alone?

But no, I think she'd still lose.


Too many women in the red states are kept at their houses while their husbands go out to vote still So no, female turnout wouldn't drastically change.
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Posted on 11-05-04 08:36 AM Link | Quote
Cheney's not expected to go for it in 2008. His heart would likely play a rather important part in that decision.

I think it's waaaaaay too early to figure out who's going to battle it out in 2008, but both sides have a lot of potential presidents and VP's. It's going to be extremely interesting, to say the least.
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Posted on 11-05-04 12:25 PM Link | Quote
Who is Rudolph Guliani? I wouldn
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Posted on 11-05-04 01:58 PM Link | Quote
He's the former mayor of New York City.
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Posted on 11-05-04 03:25 PM Link | Quote
I find some of the opinions expressed here quite upsetting... I can't see why everyone would want to move out when the US already has the worst case scenario President in office right now.
We haven't even seen her policies yet.

If Rudy did run for the Republican candidate then I could see a lot of people voting for him. However, running a country is very different to running a city.

I also do note that because Clinton is a woman, there will be a political effect against her, but I'm sure it's not nearly as sizable as the factors counting for her.

It is true that people have voted on the moral issues this time around, but in all honesty some of the state ballots (including the gay marriage ballot) shouldn't have gone to the public vote. This is simply because gay people are a minority and didn't stand a chance against being outnumbered by fundamentalist Christian organisations.

I also would like to know why "a Clinton" is such a bad thing. While Bill Clinton was in office, he was a good President, despite his womanising.

I'm looking forward to Hillary Clinton running for President. At least it would make the election more interesting than last time.
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