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Posted on 11-04-04 10:18 AM Link | Quote
"I'll be honest, I am a fucking wuss, a coward, and all that good stuff. But I want to see what I'm capable of, I also have a poor time with self disipline."

That describes plenty of people before they join the military.

It's not so much boot camp that makes the change in people though, that's just the starting point. It's being in the actual operational military that will do it for you. Don't do it for the President or the people really, do it for yourself and the relationship you have with your country.

I for one don't serve my president, I serve America. And that's how it is with most people in the military really. It's kind of like certain higher ranking people I used to work with. I didn't like them at all but I respected the uniform they wear, not the person who was wearing it.
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Posted on 11-04-04 10:47 PM Link | Quote
My friend is thinking of joining the air force and a recriuter told him that there might be a draft so it would be beneficial to sign up early and get a good position or something like that, thats why I asked.
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Posted on 11-05-04 12:25 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Lenophis
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I know one person who is at war (who is married and has two kids) and who is happy to serve and another friend who is in training right now.

That has to do with this topic....how?

I've heard boths ways whether or not it will happen, we'll just wait and see this spring...


I was trying to point out that there's people in the military that want to be there (that have families and the likes) and fight, unlike those people who join up only for the money and then whine because they have to go to war. It's not always peaches and cream...you sign up, you have to take the cake and run with it sometimes.
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Posted on 11-05-04 01:27 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sion Traydor
My friend is thinking of joining the air force and a recriuter told him that there might be a draft so it would be beneficial to sign up early and get a good position or something like that, thats why I asked.


AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh man, that is rich! Like I said, we're overmanned by 20,000 people and we're kicking out people left and right. I'm surprised that we're actually letting anyone in really.

Hey, tell your friend to mention the words "force shaping" to his recruiter and see what kind of reaction he gets. Ask him what Palace Chase is too.
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Posted on 11-05-04 01:44 AM Link | Quote
I would only see a draft likely if there is a big ass world war which is going on for years and where US soldiers are needed everywhere. And well, that's not gonna happen in ten years at least.

And i'm quite sure that even Bush wouldn't do a draft unless it's really necessary. That's just common sense. And even then, he wouldn't get it through the senate right?

About joining the military, I rather help with the technical/medical part. But then I succefully dodged the military here in Sweden... don't ask why.
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Posted on 11-05-04 02:35 AM Link | Quote
The possibility of a draft is still rather high. Not because Bush was re-elected, but because right now, we are pretty much focused on Iraq and if another country wanted to have a legit war with us, we'd have to do something to get great numbers of troops quickly if the country posed any threat to us.

As for having a draft in Iraq, the probability is still rather low. Recruiters are doing a good job trickingrecruting more members for the forces. Besides, a Congressional vote of 2/3rd of each house is required and if it's any consollidationg, there's more than 1/3rd of democrats in each house
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Posted on 11-05-04 02:43 AM Link | Quote
Riiiight.

The chances of a draft are slim to none. We have the proper manpower. And we're at no loss when it comes to people recruiting either. Ever since 9/11 (especially RIGHT after) it's been a mass flood.

Wait, wtf? The second part, are you talking about a draft for Iraqi forces? wtf?
What do you mean a draft in Iraq?
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Posted on 11-05-04 02:49 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Legion
Riiiight.

The chances of a draft are slim to none. We have the proper manpower. And we're at no loss when it comes to people recruiting either. Ever since 9/11 (especially RIGHT after) it's been a mass flood.

Wait, wtf? The second part, are you talking about a draft for Iraqi forces? wtf?
What do you mean a draft in Iraq?


I meant a draft to support the war in Iraq


(edited by Rebecca Daise on 11-04-04 05:52 PM)
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Posted on 11-05-04 03:06 AM Link | Quote
The draft is the draft. You said that we had both a high and a low chance of having one. Which is it? Which one did you mean, that is?
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Posted on 11-05-04 03:15 AM Link | Quote
NO DRAFT. WE HAVE PLENTY OF PEOPLE.
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Posted on 11-08-04 10:21 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Cymoro
NO DRAFT. WE HAVE PLENTY OF PEOPLE.


I've read that they've started recalling people who served in Gulf War I to active duty. Kinda scary. The reserves must be running out.

If things get worse in Iraq, what will happen?
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Posted on 11-08-04 10:24 AM Link | Quote
Legion: I'm just curious, if the Air Force wants to get rid of people, why do they still advertise? Is this just the nominal level of advertising on TV or is it above normal? Because I rarely see USAF commercials (heh 'commercials'), usually Navy or GoArmy.com type stuff.
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Posted on 11-08-04 11:00 AM Link | Quote
Good question

I rarely see them as well.

But the answer is because even though we need to get people out, we'll always need young people to replace career long airman who are about to retire. It's all about balance, they need to keep the right proportions of people who know their job, and the people who are learning it to replace the ones who are getting out.
I hope that made sense.
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Posted on 11-09-04 01:11 AM Link | Quote
Made perfect sense Legion. I think it also has to with the fact that they're always looking for better qualified people to serve as well. You know, the higher the ASVAB, the more recruiters you get

As for the draft thing, let me just join in the club and say THERE WILL BE NO DRAFT. =D Honestly, I think they whole thing is over-hyped, over discussed, and under validated. Oh well, I guess that's how most things go.
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