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Super Sion You BlockHead! Level: 70 Posts: 1603/2472 EXP: 3002513 For next: 13298 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yo Mommas House Since last post: 29 min. Last activity: 5 min. |
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| What do you all think the possibility of a Draft will be now that Bush has been re-elected. This concerns me because I just turned 18 and Im perfectly healthy so Id be at the top of a draft, which sucks for me but not as much as it sucks for my Mom shes thinking of fraud just to keep me out of the army. I personally would choose not to go, but if it came down to a draft and I had no choice Id take a deep breathe and go through with it, the way I see it if I manage to stay alive it will be really good for me in the future. | |||
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Yoshi Dude XKEEPER STOLE MY CAR KEYS Level: 79  Posts: 1677/3271 EXP: 4572680 For next: 6787 Since: 03-15-04 From: give me a number folks. Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| There won't be a draft. | |||
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 2771/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Haha, people actually think there's going to be a draft?  Trust me, there's not going to be a draft. We in the Air Force are trying to get rid of 20,000 people because we're overmanned.  |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 4928/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| No way will there be a draft in the next four years. That rumor is pretty much a fallacy and - if things stay the same during that time period - there shouldn't be any reason to even consider one. Not to mention that there's so many other, useful things that the taxpayers' money should go into. Say what you will about Bush, but if he put the draft in then you might as well pencil in that Democrat win in 2008. |
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Jarukoth  IRRATIONAL EXUBERENCE!!1! Level: 79  Posts: 2006/3194 EXP: 4402011 For next: 177456 Since: 03-17-04 From: New Jersey, U.S.A. Shoes: Yes. Since last post: 8 days Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by Legion You would actually be surprised how many people still thought the draft would be in place. Not that I am a coward or anything, but the second it was confirmed that it was a hoax, that was the final nail in the coffin, for me at least. |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get.  Level: 73  Posts: 708/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| The idea of a draft scares me. I don't know if you'd get one or not, but I see the things this way: It's sending off people who DON'T want to so something against their will, so you're probably not going to get the best performance out of them. A lot of them are going to be resentful and stuff, you're just not going to get the same performance out of them as you'd likely get out of somebody who did it WILLINGLY and WANTS to do it, as that person would have enthusiasm  It's scaring the crap out of a bunch of people, like healthy young men who would be PERFECT for the job, other than the fact that they prolly don't wanna. It's scaring the crap out of those people's families too. Wee..... there'd have to be one DAMNED good reason for a Draft, in my opinion, otherwise, it's just a really shoddy way of getting people into the armed forces. Good to hear that there isn't likely to be one. |
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Cymoro PATRICK DUFFY WILL LASER YOUR SOUL   Level: 67  Posts: 1455/2216 EXP: 2549743 For next: 43129 Since: 03-15-04 From: Cymoro Gaming Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| The democrats are the ones pushing the draft in congress, and that's only a tiny percentage of them. Trust me, you're safe, unless you signed up for the reserves/army/whatever voluntarily. |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67  Posts: 818/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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| Tcch, if there's a draft there's a draft. Many democracies around the globe MAKE you join the army for a year or two - barring any health problems. I think we're spoiled personally. | |||
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 710/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by MathOnNapkins Yeah, I think Germany requires people to do military service. I remember meeting a German man who said that they didn't want to do it, but they did and they feel that they are a better person because of it. |
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Dracoon Zelda The temp ban/forum ban bypasser! Level: 84  Posts: 1684/3727 EXP: 5514391 For next: 147561 Since: 03-25-04 From: At home Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| I am a pacifist! (or in other words a coward) Seriously, I wouldn't do it, they could put me in jail as long as they want, but I would never be able to help out the army if I am opposed to why they are there. They put me in jail, I don't care, you can't keep me there unless a broke a law, and from last I heard, going against the draft because you don't believe in killing people is ok. (I am not very informed so you know) It doesn't matter though, if there was a draft there would probably be many more terrorist attacks from the people giving secrets to the terrorist because they didn't want to be in the army in the first place. |
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MathOnNapkins Math n' Hacks Level: 67 Posts: 821/2189 EXP: 2495887 For next: 96985 Since: 03-18-04 From: Base Tourian Since last post: 1 hour Last activity: 32 min. |
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| Joining the military doesn't always mean you are being sent somewhere to kill someone. And the countries I'm talking about require military service regardless of a time of war or not. | |||
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 2336/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Oh, how convenient! I can just use my own quote from that other topic!Originally posted by Kefka |
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Thomas Buzz Blob Level: 26  Posts: 43/298 EXP: 98852 For next: 3423 Since: 10-29-04 From: United States Since last post: 88 days Last activity: 83 days |
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| I do not want the draft to be reinstated. I am almost 18 and if that happens I will have to join the army. If Bush does that I am moving to Canada. |
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Anya The Exile Ultima Mezcla de Yin Yan Level: 98  Posts: 3353/5337 EXP: 9530313 For next: 124040 Since: 03-15-04 From: South Florida Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| As many has mentioned before, there will be no draft. I know one person who is at war (who is married and has two kids) and who is happy to serve and another friend who is in training right now. |
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Lenophis Super Koopa Level: 44  Posts: 205/830 EXP: 584360 For next: 26925 Since: 03-15-04 From: Duluth, MN Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by Anya That has to do with this topic....how? I've heard boths ways whether or not it will happen, we'll just wait and see this spring... |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 4939/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| The best way to solve the war on terror: Send in people who don't want to fight. Yeah. Brilliant. There's plenty of people who WANT to serve their country, and more power to them. And on the flip side, there's others who serve their country in other, non-war related ways. To each their own. |
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Apple Kodondo Level: 38 Posts: 511/594 EXP: 350163 For next: 20284 Since: 03-27-04 From: Washington. Since last post: 264 days Last activity: 152 days |
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| I've been thinking about joining the army. The whole "War on terrorism" thing is what kind of threw my idea away for a while since I don't really want to fight in the army. I just want money for college and besides it would be good for me. My mom doesn't want me to and everything so I dunno. The draft wont happen. |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 1600/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Become a naturalized Canadian citizen and join our army, it is allowed Of course, you become an ex-patriot and it is hard to transfer to the US army (apparently training transfers happen all the time in certain divisions, etc.). And really, the worst thing that has happened to the Canadian army was caused by an American friendly firing. You also won't have to fear the Patriot Missle Defence System. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 2777/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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| Patriot missiles suck ass. They're practically pointless. You know what I find hilarious? People are always bitching about draft dodgers when it comes to politicians. Oh no! Clintion is a draft dodger! So is Bush! What scum! And then when a ghastly rumor of a draft comes up, they're all "Oh fuck that, I'm getting outta here!". The hell? And why is everyone so fearful of joining the military anyway? It's not like we're imprisoned or anything. Seriously, it's not that bad. Some even enjoy it! *gasp* But like Colleen said, you don't have to join the military to serve your country. There are countless other ways to do so. Apple, the Army isn't all ground troops/infantry. The military has almost every civilian counterpart. They have accountants, mechanics, public affairs, health services, supply and so on and so on. People picture the Army and they think that it's all troops with guns. It's not. Same goes for the Air Force. You wouldn't believe how many people think that every person in the Air Force is a pilot. When you compare the total number of people in the AF to pilots we have, the number is very small. |
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Apple Kodondo Level: 38 Posts: 514/594 EXP: 350163 For next: 20284 Since: 03-27-04 From: Washington. Since last post: 264 days Last activity: 152 days |
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Originally posted by Legion I am quite aware that there is other jobs in the army than just ground solider. If all it was was ground soliders than we wouldn't be very effective but I'm not really sure on what I would want to do if I joined. I'll be honest, I am a fucking wuss, a coward, and all that good stuff. But I want to see what I'm capable of, I also have a poor time with self disipline. I think boot camp could help me with both of those besides I really do want to serve my country. I don't agree with the majority of the shit it does nor do I really care for the leader of my country or the people who live here as a whole. As for the jobs in the army... My grandfather's stories of being a solider in Korea as well as all the stories I heard from soliders in Vietnam and the Gulf war have kind of grown on me. Running around in a foregin country, doing whats right (Yes, that is questionable), relaying on your buddies to sruvive. I know I'm only focusing on the more "romantic" side of ground conflict, I know its dangerous, and I know I'll have to kill or I'll be killed. I don't know... It kind of applies to me. Yeah. |
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