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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 457/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Valentine Revolution On the note of cutting, I have never cut myself, I have never taken really to playing with knives. My thing seems to be heights, and vehicles. Like my example with the car -- driving a car off a high cliff, into the ocean. Standing on the roof of a city building. Peering over high railings, walking out in front of a bus. When I start feeling suicidal, the things that come to mind -- more or less flash into my mind -- are not knives. It's rooves, railings, buses, balconies, trains and cliff-faces. For whatever reason, my mind picks out things that are fast, violent, and (most likely) final. I don't want something to be final. I don't want to die. So I hope that I never *really* lose the plot, because I am terrified of what might happen if I do -- the way my suicidal mind works doesn't give me much room for second chances at living. |
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Crystal Shards Keese Level: 19 Posts: 107/126 EXP: 34318 For next: 1459 Since: 03-23-04 From: Ontario, Canada Since last post: 95 days Last activity: 130 days |
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Without actually wanting to scare anyone, I attempted it a night or two ago... Not just the cry for attention, either. At first I was thinking about that- the cry, that is- but when it came down to the knife in my hand I really actually tried to end it all. Bwah. I'm lucky I have thick skin 'cause I don't really want to die right now, I just did at the moment. Depression is... Depressing. But anyway, yeah, so, I dunno. I'm just going through a lot of problems right now, can't work 'cause of panic attacks, facing imminant eviction 'cause I can't pay my rent 'cause I can't work, et cetera, et cetera... And a million other things. Suicide is not done by people who are weak, it takes a fucking LOT to hack at yourself with a knife. I don't approve of Angsty McTeenagers who fucking off themselves 'cause their boyfriend dumped them or some stupid shit like that (which is sadly far too common), but if the circumstances of your life really do suck to a breaking point... Well, you'd better be ready to face the end, but if you do it, here's to you. Bwah. |
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Mariokoolguy Red Paragoomba Level: 13 Posts: 37/56 EXP: 8345 For next: 1922 Since: 10-01-04 From: Florida(somewhere) Since last post: 376 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Originally posted by ChibiTarynSame as chibitaryn. Scared of heights but i would never cut myself scared of dying yesOriginally posted by Valentine Revolution i dont ever want to die i want to live forever that is possible if heaven IS real. (edited by Mariokoolguy on 10-12-04 01:09 PM) |
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knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 784/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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You all suck for taking Skiff serious. >( On the topic, why is it so wrong to put an end in something that's yours? (edited by knuck on 10-12-04 02:42 PM) |
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Super Sion You BlockHead! Level: 70 Posts: 1565/2472 EXP: 3002513 For next: 13298 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yo Mommas House Since last post: 29 min. Last activity: 5 min. |
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Because you will go to hell...and cause people around you to be sad. | |||
Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 2663/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by Sion Traydor And what if there is no such place? What will become of you then? |
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Super Sion You BlockHead! Level: 70 Posts: 1569/2472 EXP: 3002513 For next: 13298 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yo Mommas House Since last post: 29 min. Last activity: 5 min. |
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Originally posted by LegionOriginally posted by Sion Traydor Then you would have just thrown away your only shot at existance. |
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Sofie Level: 52 Posts: 979/1210 EXP: 1028812 For next: 55028 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 187 days Last activity: 279 days |
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Originally posted by Legion Exactly. And that's where the difference lies between emotional and physical pain; physical pain can be uncureable, but with the right support, emotional pain can be lessened and gradually 'removed'. You can learn from emotional pain, whereas (serious, uncurable) physical pain most often is caused by something you had no control over. ofcourse, you can learn from physical pain aswell (don't touch a hot cookingplate), but I do believe that most of this pain you can learn from isn't permanent, like, say, losing a limb in an accident is kinda permanent. I can't express myself very well right now, but I think the gist of what I'm saying is fairly obvious. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 2667/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Mmhmm! You can't predict or say that you'll never get over something. You will. Guarunteed. I had my episode of severe (at least I thought it was at the time) depression about three years ago when something happened to me. At the time, there was no forseeable way for me to get over it. I thought it would affect me for the rest of my life. But not too much later, roughly six months or so, I was laughing at the whole situation. Laughing. It's amazing how much your feelings can change on a situation if you'll only give it time. Just rough it out and stick with it, and you'll eventually be rewarded. Life would be pretty bland and borish if EVERYTHING went our way. If something good happened to us, would we really care? It would just be normallacy. "You can't have the sweet without the sour." Everyone should know that life is just one big wave of ups and downs and you have to ride it as best as you can. We all know how life is beyond unpredictable. So by taking your own life early, you just sell yourself short. Who knows what you would have experienced had you just hung in there? You could have missed an oppurtunity which could have lead to one of the most happiest lives ever. And you can't say "Well, I know for a fact that nothing good will ever happen to me, that's my luck." That's bullshit. You can't predict the future. No one can. And really now, how horrible could your life possibly be? All I hear is people bitching because they have too much homework, or not enough free time, or how their parents don't let them roam the streets until the wee hours of the morning, or how this girl/guy broke up with them and so forth. You have no idea how good you have it compared to other kids your age, especially in third world countries. They would kill to even live a fraction as good as you do. But yet, they go on because they're content with the simple fact that they still wake up every morning. If you stop to think about it for a second, being alive is the greatest thing in the world no matter what difficulties you may be going through or may have gone through in the past. The gift of existance is priceless because it's an oppurtunity for unlimted possibilities. To say that your life will always be bad is ludicrous. If that isn't a reason to want to live, then I don't know what is. |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143 Posts: 4235/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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Originally posted by ChibiTaryn I |
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Tarale I'm not under the alfluence of incohol like some thinkle peop I am. It's just the drunker I sit here the longer I get. Level: 73 Posts: 459/2720 EXP: 3458036 For next: 27832 Since: 03-18-04 From: Adelaide, Australia Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Yeah, I've spoken to doctors, and I've spoken to friends. Unfortunately, a few of my friends have made it blatantly obvious that they don't seem to "approve" of me being depressed (like it was a decision I made, and I had a choice in the matter), and I've had a few fallings-out with friends too. That, of course, doesn't make things any better, but the friends that *have* been supportive are worth their weight in gold. And Legion -- *applauds* That's how I think most the time. And if I wasn't crazy from time to time, it'd be all the time too Whatever doesn't kill me only makes me stronger. |
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Uncle Elmo Hammer Brother Partly Sweet, Helpful, good at advice and a half decent writer. Also modest. Level: 49 Posts: 722/1062 EXP: 845899 For next: 37984 Since: 03-15-04 From: Prestatyn, Uk Since last post: 23 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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I think that I was suicidal because in a strange sort of way I was happy with my life up to that point, I knew that I had had the happiest times of my life (which haven't been topped since, by the way), and that was enough. I also saw myself as a burden, my depression was like some black hole, dragging everyone down. Even though no one said it out loud, they knew it, and were sick of it. I figured logically that the best way to deal with things was to just rid myself off the face of the earth. I had things planned to a very disterbing degree, I had rationalised everything and it seemed to make perfect sense. In every time I planned it, they were methods in which I'd just dissappear and never come back, usually walking into the sea, or jumping of bridges into the sea or something like that. I wrote a short note to my family, apologising for my burden and wrote what approximated a suicide note on my blog(but something cryptic enough so no one would know what was REALLY going on, and tell the authorities). I suppose you could say as I lost control of my life, the only thing I COULD control was my death, but in the end I didn't go through with it. I still don't know why I didn't, I think it was just the overpowering fear of death that I had, and also the realisation that I had a lot to achieve, a lot of people's lives to tough and that perhaps THAT was my purpose. Those who see Suicide as being "Weak" have never stood on that precipice, because untl you do, you can never see how determined you have to be to go through with it. It's a stupid thing to do, but when people are scared, their IQ drops through the floor I don't think anyone could really had talked me out of it, I really believed it the most rational thing to do and that to think otherwise was just irrational touchy-feely nonsense. My mood swings have stabilised a LOT, mostly through self discipline and recognising the signs when I'm going to get depressed, wethering the storm, I suppose. Our lives are rich compared to others, and we should be glad for it, but you could argue that although we have things like famine, disease and suchlike under control, this society has become a "colder" place. making fun of others is now the norm, and making other's lives hell is seen as a joke. People are afraid to love and care for each other as THAT is seen weak, so whilst a depressed person seeks respect and comeraderie, they often find only ridicule. Do we have THAT great after all? |
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Kasumi-Astra Administrator Level: 62 Posts: 902/1867 EXP: 1971846 For next: 12840 Since: 03-15-04 From: Reading, UK Uni: Sheffield, UK Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 12 hours |
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I feel the same way as Taryn. I am mortally afraid of doing something really stupid to myself that was final, yet slow. I know I'll come around, but if that ever happened after it was too late, I'd die a horribly sad death. That fear has kept all serious thoughts of suicide out of my mind for three years |
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