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Posted on 10-09-04 06:49 AM Link | Quote
I didn't see a thread about this, so...

I think Kerry is owning Bush just like last time. Bush is helping him out, too. He just referred to Kerry as "Senator Kennedy" and he also referred to something on the "internets". Looks like Kerry'll win again ^.~
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Posted on 10-09-04 07:05 AM Link | Quote
Yep. Bush is getting his ass handed to him.
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Posted on 10-09-04 07:18 PM Link | Quote
If it's anything like that last one I didn't watch and something that goes along with the '......uh......' statement...then yea...Bush is screwed.
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Posted on 10-09-04 07:20 PM Link | Quote
This is interesting



They arrested the candidates?!
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Posted on 10-09-04 08:14 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by ChibiTaryn
This is interesting



They arrested the candidates?!


They got arrested on purpose, as a stunt.
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Posted on 10-09-04 08:31 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by hhallahh
Originally posted by ChibiTaryn
This is interesting



They arrested the candidates?!


They got arrested on purpose, as a stunt.


Still interesting. Bleh, our election wasn't nearly that much fun!
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Posted on 10-09-04 08:33 PM Link | Quote
No ex-British state, but South Africa, gets any decent election fun.
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Posted on 10-09-04 08:47 PM Link | Quote
"I own a timber company? Well that's news to me. Anyone want some wood?"

Amusing, oh so amusing.

Question for you Kerryites out there. When he said, "I will put 40,000 new men into the military without use of the draft," how exactly does he plan to do that? Curious if maybe I missed it or something. To me, if you have an exact number of men you're planning to enlist in the military...that sounds like a draft to me.
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Posted on 10-09-04 09:24 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Lunar Depths
"I own a timber company? Well that's news to me. Anyone want some wood?"

Amusing, oh so amusing.

Question for you Kerryites out there. When he said, "I will put 40,000 new men into the military without use of the draft," how exactly does he plan to do that? Curious if maybe I missed it or something. To me, if you have an exact number of men you're planning to enlist in the military...that sounds like a draft to me.


Maybe he has a plan to try to entice people into the military? I don't know what benefits there currently are in the US to signing up though....

Maybe he's offering a free Pony Ride and Toffee Apple?
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Posted on 10-09-04 10:06 PM Link | Quote
Really, I'd imagine him using techniques like increased high school recruitment drives, commercials, and promoting the benefits of the military, etc.
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Posted on 10-09-04 10:52 PM Link | Quote
No offense to the Democratic party, but the only political group who has ever improved things for the military has been the Republicans. When Clinton was in office, pay was decreased, benefits were decreased, funding was decreased, our missile defense systems were shut down...the list goes on and on. Since Bush has come into office, our pay has gone up, benefits have improved, and the standard of living is slowly going up. Yes, I do know this for a fact because my father is in the military. These reasons are why generally most military members are Republicans, because that party is the only party who does what you are suggesting.

To me, it sounded like Kerry was trying to be Super Man. Somehow, he is going to lower taxes for the middle class (by most likely raising the taxes to extreme amounts for the rich who are already paying the majority of our taxes), improve health care and provide it for everyone, improve our schools, improve our military, and still manage to pay off the defecit. I'm sorry, but that really does not sound realistic. The money for these programs has to come from somewhere, and that place is either taxes, Social Security, or our defecit increases. And just out of curiosity, was my family the only lower middle class family in the United States that got a tax break last year? Kerry sure made it sound that way, but I know we got a check. Just a question.
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Posted on 10-10-04 12:30 AM Link | Quote
If we didn't go to war with countries over get oil, we wouldn't have to give more money to the military .


(edited by windwaker on 10-09-04 03:30 PM)
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Posted on 10-10-04 12:46 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Lunar Depths

To me, it sounded like Kerry was trying to be Super Man. Somehow, he is going to lower taxes for the middle class (by most likely raising the taxes to extreme amounts for the rich who are already paying the majority of our taxes), improve health care and provide it for everyone, improve our schools, improve our military, and still manage to pay off the defecit. I'm sorry, but that really does not sound realistic. The money for these programs has to come from somewhere, and that place is either taxes, Social Security, or our defecit increases. And just out of curiosity, was my family the only lower middle class family in the United States that got a tax break last year? Kerry sure made it sound that way, but I know we got a check. Just a question.


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Posted on 10-10-04 01:38 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Lunar Depths
No offense to the Democratic party, but the only political group who has ever improved things for the military has been the Republicans. When Clinton was in office, pay was decreased, benefits were decreased, funding was decreased, our missile defense systems were shut down...the list goes on and on. Since Bush has come into office, our pay has gone up, benefits have improved, and the standard of living is slowly going up. Yes, I do know this for a fact because my father is in the military. These reasons are why generally most military members are Republicans, because that party is the only party who does what you are suggesting.

To me, it sounded like Kerry was trying to be Super Man. Somehow, he is going to lower taxes for the middle class (by most likely raising the taxes to extreme amounts for the rich who are already paying the majority of our taxes), improve health care and provide it for everyone, improve our schools, improve our military, and still manage to pay off the defecit. I'm sorry, but that really does not sound realistic. The money for these programs has to come from somewhere, and that place is either taxes, Social Security, or our defecit increases. And just out of curiosity, was my family the only lower middle class family in the United States that got a tax break last year? Kerry sure made it sound that way, but I know we got a check. Just a question.


The challenger always promises everything. Blame him or the stupid American voter, but if Kerry were to say, "yea, I might have to raise taxes for our long-run interest" or something, it'd be over for him. The American voter wants everything and then some, and both canidates know this. Of course neither of them could realistically deliver on their promises... they just have to do so reasonably well.
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Posted on 10-10-04 02:39 AM Link | Quote
When Clinton was in office, pay was decreased, benefits were decreased, funding was decreased, our missile defense systems were shut down...the list goes on and on. Since Bush has come into office, our pay has gone up, benefits have improved, and the standard of living is slowly going up.

Is it really? All I've ever heard about benefits is that he was cutting them. And I don't personally know anyone who's still IN the military, so I can't say.

Not like I'm voting for the Assclown In Chief anyways, though. He got DEMOLISHED. AGAIN. And I only saw the last couple of questions.
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Posted on 10-10-04 04:04 AM Link | Quote
And I have a question for you, the one-and-only Bushist.

How do you back this up? First, Bush said that the sanctions are working, and then a few minutes later, he said that the sanctions are NOT working, and when Kerry pointed that out, Bush had an angry look on his face and backfired with yet ANOTHER argument that he already repeated one billion ga gillion fa fillion shabedelulemillion times in the previous election.

Bush DID do better this time around (to a degree) than he did in the first presidential debate, but he was still the clear-cut loser in this one. Maybe if he would learn to GET HIS DAMN FACTS STRAIGHT and, for once, back them up like Kerry does, and stop repeating himself so much in his speeches, that he'd have a shot at winning, but so far, Bush being re-elected is out of the question, and I hope it remains that way come Election Day.

KERRY FOR PRES Y'ALL... I'M OUTIE! PEACE!


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Posted on 10-10-04 04:43 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Seph2k4
Bush being re-elected is out of the question


Um, what? The race is close at the moment, but Kerry still needs to win the third debate and keep his momentum going in order to enjoy any kind of statistically significant lead.
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Posted on 10-10-04 05:13 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Toxic
http://bushgame.com/g5.html

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That's propoganda, still propoganda usually haves some truth.

Don't like bush, and not becuse of war. I'm pissed off at him since he made "stem cell" reaserch illegal. One of my disabled friends would benefit from stem cell research...
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Posted on 10-10-04 05:51 PM Link | Quote
Is that the game that have been posted somewhere at the board not so long ago?

"If it's anything like that last one I didn't watch and something that goes along with the '......uh......' statement...then yea...Bush is screwed."

I so laughed when I read that... Doesn
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Posted on 10-13-04 02:15 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by hhallahh
Originally posted by Seph2k4
Bush being re-elected is out of the question


Um, what? The race is close at the moment, but Kerry still needs to win the third debate and keep his momentum going in order to enjoy any kind of statistically significant lead.


Read my post again. I said SO FAR Bush being re-elected is out of the question as he is at a slight disadvantage in both the popular vote and the second debate (first was a blowout).
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