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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 277/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| How do I get Windows 95 to use Program Manager instead of Explorer. I want to take Resource Hacker to Explorer and customise some stuff and I can't save it if Explorer is running. | |||
FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 741/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| You actually have two options with Windows 95: 1. Copy explorer.exe to another filename and edit that. Then, exit Windows and copy the hacked version over explorer.exe 2. C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI conatins the information on what shell to use. Open it, and change Shell=Explorer.exe to Shell=Progman.exe and reload Windows. |
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 279/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by FreeDOS Thanks! ^^. I remember doing it in grade four, but thought it was kinda pointless, so I didnt really care to remember it. I'm gonna change start to say: "nebetsu" like I did with Windows XP. ^^ |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 743/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Good luck... I think I crashed Explorer last time I tried to have more than five characters on it in Windows 95  |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 5172/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Originally posted by FreeDOSOh yes, I remember that when I uinstalled tabworks in Win95 (since it's a 3.1 shell program) it also set progman as shell in Win95. Oddly it worked, thought I rather prefer explorer over program manager.  |
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BMF98567 BLACK HAS BUILT A SILLY DICE-MAZE! GO! Current list of BURNING FURY >8( recipients: - Yiffy Kitten (x2) - Xkeeper Level: 53  Posts: 369/1261 EXP: 1094149 For next: 62970 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blobaria Special Move: Rising Meatloaf Backhand Combo Since last post: 21 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by NebetsuOh, no no no no no...don't do that. Windows 9x doesn't work that way. I'm almost 100% certain you're limited to 5 characters. |
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DarkSlaya POOOOOOOOOOOORN! Level: 88 Posts: 2162/4249 EXP: 6409254 For next: 241410 Since: 05-16-04 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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Originally posted by BMF54123 I'm not sure of that. The French version uses 8 characters. So I guess there's room for more. (edited by DarkSlaya on 09-29-04 05:37 PM) |
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 282/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by BMF54123Originally posted by NebetsuOh, no no no no no...don't do that. Windows 9x doesn't work that way. I'm almost 100% certain you're limited to 5 characters. Well I guess I'll try... >.> |
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Xkeeper The required libraries have not been defined. Level: NAN  Posts: -3180/-863 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: -753366 sec. |
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| Yes, I'm pretty sure it's just S [00] T [00] A [00] R [00] T (yes, they're seperated by NULL bytes) Of course, that means you're limited to 5 characters. More = uhoh. |
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FreeDOS Lava Lotus Wannabe-Mod :< Level: 59 Posts: 747/1657 EXP: 1648646 For next: 24482 Since: 03-15-04 From: Seattle Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by DarkSlayaOriginally posted by BMF54123 Well... Microsoft has no need to hack a binary... they have the source code, so they can do anything to it really. |
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BMF98567 BLACK HAS BUILT A SILLY DICE-MAZE! GO! Current list of BURNING FURY >8( recipients: - Yiffy Kitten (x2) - Xkeeper Level: 53 Posts: 372/1261 EXP: 1094149 For next: 62970 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blobaria Special Move: Rising Meatloaf Backhand Combo Since last post: 21 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by DarkSlayaI'm certain Explorer was recompiled with a different length variable for each of the different languages. Changing it would be a trivial matter if you had the source code... |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 1655/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| M$ can just change the string and recompile, and there ya go. With the binary, it's more difficult. You could try it, but keep a backup. | |||
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 285/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| It works everyone! No more argueing about it. I set my Start menu to say "Nebetsu" and it works just fine. ^^ | |||
neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 1433/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by BMF54123 The variable that holds "start" is a string constant, which means that fixed amount of memory is set for that string. And because I believe explorer is written in C, increasing the number of characters past 5 (if this is win9x) writes into the fixed memory of another item. So, i wonder where else the ending part of "nebetsu" will show up... |
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 286/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by neotransotakuOriginally posted by BMF54123 Well it shows up and it works! ^^ |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 1441/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| well...it works for as long as you do not access the memory you have overwritten... | |||
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 302/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by neotransotaku Nothing bad has happened from it yet. |
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BMF98567 BLACK HAS BUILT A SILLY DICE-MAZE! GO! Current list of BURNING FURY >8( recipients: - Yiffy Kitten (x2) - Xkeeper Level: 53 Posts: 375/1261 EXP: 1094149 For next: 62970 Since: 03-15-04 From: Blobaria Special Move: Rising Meatloaf Backhand Combo Since last post: 21 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Okay, so...did you just overwrite the 00's with letters, or did you overwrite the beginning of the next message? | |||
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Nebetsu Shmee Level: 55 Posts: 314/1574 EXP: 1291130 For next: 23059 Since: 09-01-04 From: Nebland Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Originally posted by BMF54123 Edited the string table. It was as simple as looking for "start" and changing it to "nebetsu" |
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kitty Come on babe, pet the pussy ;) Level: 70 Posts: 1218/2449 EXP: 2962406 For next: 53405 Since: 03-15-04 From: Scranton, PA, USA Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| For example, my Smartass Windows XP Explorer: "STRINGTABLE LANGUAGE LANG_ENGLISH, SUBLANG_ENGLISH_US { 578, "Start" 579, "Windows fucked up and closed an app on you. HA-HA!" 580, "Restrictions" 581, "You're not an admin. You cannot do this. TRY AGAIN FROM THE START." 590, "Hiding your inactive notification icons..." 591, "Click here to show icons for apps you probably never use." }" |
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