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HellSavior

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Posted on 08-20-04 07:29 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by AghBob
Okay, you guys asked for it...

What makes Cold Fusion better? Well, in all text books that teach Cold Fusion, they have in there two types of programming language that they compare. On one page, they have Cold Fusion. On the other, they have a language such as php or asp. In this particular example, the book shows you how to do something with each language. When you look at it, Cold Fusion takes a considerable amount of less coding than the other language does. Meaning that when you code with CF, you code less and get the same thing accomplished.

Below are the URLs for two sites that I would like for you two to visit. The first is a site made by the man who is the EXPERT on ColdFusion. On this particular page, he lists categories in which you can find multiple CF sites. Look at the coding for those pages and you'll see why it's better. The second is another site that will accuaint you with the uberness of CF.

http://www.forta.com/cf/using/

http://www.cffaq.com/

There you go gentlemen.


Using that analogy you would conclude that VB is superior to C? Great logic, kiddo.

By the way, your webdesign skills are zero to none. Your programming skills are zero to none. Why argue for or against ColdFusion when you don't even utilize it in your 'webpage'? Go cry yourself to sleep.
AghBob

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Posted on 08-21-04 03:18 AM Link | Quote
Excuse me? Don't use it in my webpage? You need to go look at my site again little boy and see what it's coded in. It is used fully in CF. Don't even TRY to tell me otherwise. I'm being attacked on all sides here, with no one to back me up. I'm only learning CF, my mom knows it, so don't give me any crap about my programming skills, cause I know I'm not great.

And yes Cervantes, there is a place where you can see what CF can do. It's on the second URL I posted. Go there, and look around.

Jesper, yes it has all that you asked about.
You don't like CF? You want to use something else cause you're better aquainted with it? Fine, I respect that. It's honorable to stick to what you're good at. But starting to give me crap is wrong and DIShonorable. You don't like my programming skills? You don't like CF? You don't like me as a person? Big deal, and you've gotta be pretty stuck up to make fun of people about their programming skills.


(edited by AghBob on 08-20-04 06:19 PM)
Jesper
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Posted on 08-21-04 06:34 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by AghBob
Jesper, yes it has all that you asked about.
Good, then it's a decent language.
Originally posted by AghBob
You don't like CF? You want to use something else cause you're better aquainted with it? Fine, I respect that. It's honorable to stick to what you're good at. But starting to give me crap is wrong and DIShonorable. You don't like my programming skills? You don't like CF? You don't like me as a person? Big deal, and you've gotta be pretty stuck up to make fun of people about their programming skills.
You're the one who started with the crap-giving here. You haven't shown any proof that CF programming pays much higher than PHP, which was basically what you were saying just a few posts back, so I'd rather tell YOU to stop giving me crap about programming skills. Note that I haven't said anywhere in the thread that "CF is for weiners" or something to a similar effect.

I respect other people knowing different languages. Claiming that CF's far ahead of everything else just because it can do stuff like connecting to a DB server in fewer commands than language X, and additionally claiming that you get better paid for it without ANY facts to back it up, however, is just something else. That's both insulting to my programming skills and my languages of choice and also pretty surely not true. I would have believed you if you had said that Assembler programmers earn more, because that's several levels lower and is decidedly harder to learn, but this sounds far more unlikely.

The big deal here is that you should always be able to back up what you say. What's been going on in this thread is that people have asked you to define (with tangible examples) why CF is, in your book, a wiser choice than the alternatives. You've been pointing to sites that as far as I could find didn't even mention any actual in-use CF code, they just mentioned that they were using CF. You have further claimed that CF will make people pay you more, but have refused to explain why, how much, what you're refering to that they'll pay you more than (plain HTML pages? That goes without saying). And lastly, you said, verbatim "php is great, but CF is better." and you have still to back that up as well. Proving one language is better than the other is insanely hard, because in order to prove that, one of the languages needs to be wildly inferior to the other or have serious limitations. I don't see this as being the case for CF vs PHP.

Before you reply to this post and call me a flaming moron or PHP nazi or CF hater or what have you, BACK UP THE FACTS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN SATISFACTORILY BACKED UP, like those above.
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Posted on 08-21-04 11:19 PM Link | Quote
Well, that one guy got on here and said that my programming skills were zero to none, and that is an insult to me. I don't have any evidence to back up the money making thing, because I'd have to go and do a really long and in depth search on the internet to find some proof, and I don't feel like doing that. And if you want to see a CF board, go to my site. There it is. The code's encrypted, so you won't be able to view the code. But it was made out of CF and it is great. I think this thread should be closed, because it's getting very close to having flaming on it. In fact, on most boards, the comments made by HellSavior would be considered flaming.
Jesper
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Posted on 08-22-04 01:59 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by AghBob
Well, that one guy got on here and said that my programming skills were zero to none, and that is an insult to me. I don't have any evidence to back up the money making thing, because I'd have to go and do a really long and in depth search on the internet to find some proof, and I don't feel like doing that. And if you want to see a CF board, go to my site. There it is. The code's encrypted, so you won't be able to view the code. But it was made out of CF and it is great. I think this thread should be closed, because it's getting very close to having flaming on it. In fact, on most boards, the comments made by HellSavior would be considered flaming.
I agree a bit with the flaming thing, but let's just wrap up this issue: If CF generates these pages, all we'll be able to see will be plain HTML, HTML that could be generated or written by everything. There's a) no exact evidence to that you're using CF, which is what caused some people to say that you didn't and b) we can't see an example of the language which is so great because you'll only link us to sites powered by CF. If you view source on this page, which is a PHP page, you won't see the PHP code. The same is true for CF.
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Posted on 08-22-04 11:58 PM Link | Quote
I still like the php girls:



As for CF... it could be better... but I'd rather use something that is free and just as powerful...
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Posted on 08-23-04 01:48 AM Link | Quote
Hey kool site... I mite join
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Posted on 08-23-04 03:13 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by ProtoGuts
I still like the php girls:


I think I like 'em too
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