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checkplease Red Goomba Level: 11 Posts: 4/39 EXP: 5176 For next: 809 Since: 08-07-04 From: UK Since last post: 448 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| What do you use to make a ROM hacking level editor? | |||
Smallhacker Green Birdo SMW Hacking Moderator Level: 68  Posts: 354/2273 EXP: 2647223 For next: 81577 Since: 03-15-04 From: Söderhamn, Sweden Since last post: 10 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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| 1) Learn how to program 2) Learn how the levels are stored 3) Make a program that draws a map of the level based on the level data 4) Allow moving blocks 5) Allow saving to ROM 6) Allow adding/deleting blocls 7) Add other functions and features 8) Release 9) Tons of bug fixes (edited by Smallhacker on 08-07-04 09:49 AM) |
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checkplease Red Goomba Level: 11 Posts: 5/39 EXP: 5176 For next: 809 Since: 08-07-04 From: UK Since last post: 448 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| And... where can I learn how to do all of that? | |||
The Arkichef Red Tektite Level: 15 Posts: 26/75 EXP: 15823 For next: 561 Since: 03-19-04 Since last post: 192 days Last activity: 182 days |
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| You can buy a book about programming in C++ then spend about a year learning it like your life depends on it, then start learning how to hack roms in hex, then another year or so later you should have a decent editor. ...You should first know if you're prepared to spend all this time and effort on an editor first, and if you can really put your mind, and a lot of time, to learning a programming language and putting your skills into an program. (edited by The Arkichef on 08-07-04 10:33 AM) |
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Smallhacker Green Birdo SMW Hacking Moderator Level: 68 Posts: 357/2273 EXP: 2647223 For next: 81577 Since: 03-15-04 From: Söderhamn, Sweden Since last post: 10 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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Originally posted by checkplease ....Ooookaaaaayy... List: 1) Learn how to program 2) Learn how the levels are stored 3) Make a program that draws a map of the level based on the level data 4) Allow moving blocks 5) Allow saving to ROM 6) Allow adding/deleting blocls 7) Add other functions and features 8) Release 9) Tons of bug fixes How to: 1) Buy a book or search for tutorials on the web 2) Hack the rom and try to figure out where the levels are stored. You could also disassable the level loading ASM to figure it out. 3) Combine step 1 and 2 4) Combine step 1 and 2 5) Combine step 1 and 2 6) Combine step 1 and 2 7) Combine step 1 and 2 8) Compile, zip, upload, give link 9) Edit code, Compile, zip, upload, give link You can't just think "I want to make an editor" without knowing anything about programming. You have to know how to corrupt or disassable in order to find data. You need to be able to figure almost everything out without asking anybody. Knowing ASM and how the SNES works helps a lot. Also: If your next post is something like "Ok, and how do I do that", then you have to understand that it's most unlikely that you will make an editor for quite some time (a.k.a. 'round three years). |
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checkplease Red Goomba Level: 11 Posts: 10/39 EXP: 5176 For next: 809 Since: 08-07-04 From: UK Since last post: 448 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| Can you make an editor with visual basic? | |||
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70  Posts: 386/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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| Sanity check please. | |||
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checkplease Red Goomba Level: 11 Posts: 11/39 EXP: 5176 For next: 809 Since: 08-07-04 From: UK Since last post: 448 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| What did I do? | |||
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 387/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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| Nothing too serious, just asking how to write an editor. I use Visual Basic 6 btw. |
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checkplease Red Goomba Level: 11 Posts: 12/39 EXP: 5176 For next: 809 Since: 08-07-04 From: UK Since last post: 448 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| How much does that cost? | |||
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 388/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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| I don't know. How much do you have? | |||
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checkplease Red Goomba Level: 11 Posts: 13/39 EXP: 5176 For next: 809 Since: 08-07-04 From: UK Since last post: 448 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| about 45 quid at the moment | |||
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 389/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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| Then forget about it, unless you can borrow a copy. I got mine thanks to my brother's MSCE stint  |
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checkplease Red Goomba Level: 11 Posts: 14/39 EXP: 5176 For next: 809 Since: 08-07-04 From: UK Since last post: 448 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| MSCE Stint? What's that? | |||
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 391/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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A typo.  It's an MCSE stint. A short-lived attempt at being a Microsoft Certified Software Engineer. Comes with free box o' goodies, including all the recent OSes, Offices and Visual Studios. |
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Dish Spiny Level: 38 Posts: 114/596 EXP: 355646 For next: 14801 Since: 03-15-04 From: Disch Since last post: 18 days Last activity: 18 days |
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| Avoid Visual Basic like the plague. It ultimately will become a hinderance if you're at all serious about programming. Go for C/C++ (probably start with C).. and there are serveral compilers which are 100% free. Windows development takes a bit longer to get into with C, but once you become familar with the API, you can create apps just as fast as you could with VB, except you won't need a million runtimes to make them work. But yeah... you can make editors with VB. But you shouldn't. ;P |
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70 Posts: 394/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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Originally posted by Disch *Kawa-oneechan does the pull-down-lower-eyelid thingy and sticks out his tongue at Disch. |
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checkplease Red Goomba Level: 11 Posts: 15/39 EXP: 5176 For next: 809 Since: 08-07-04 From: UK Since last post: 448 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| Could you suggest any websites that let you download the compilers? | |||
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Dylan Devil Trumpets and Angel Trombones ~ Level: 54  Posts: 568/1407 EXP: 1181697 For next: 52173 Since: 06-19-04 From: Ottawa, Canada. Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 6 hours |
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| OMFG, I'm sorry, but I've got to say this before I burst into laughter, this has to be the dumbest thread in the rom hacking forum. *Bursts into laughter* Checkplease, this isn't something where you just say "hey, I'm gonna make a level editor! It's gonna be great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111" if you don't even know the most standard facts regarding the subject. So I suggest, study up big time if your actually keen on beginning this project. |
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Dish Spiny Level: 38 Posts: 115/596 EXP: 355646 For next: 14801 Since: 03-15-04 From: Disch Since last post: 18 days Last activity: 18 days |
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Originally posted by checkplease http://gcc.gnu.org/ or http://www.mingw.org/ They're just compilers... so unless you know the actual language... they won't do you a whole lot of good. Do a google search for some C tutorials. You'll probably start out with simple command line apps and it'll be a while before you'll be competent enough to make a full editor. Don't expect to make super-awesome apps right away. You have to crawl before you can walk ;D |
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