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Keitaro Iron Knuckle ウラシマ ケイタロウ Level: 54 Posts: 527/1342 EXP: 1201569 For next: 32301 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hinata, Japan Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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Heres the thing. Yeah, its usualy unacceptable to have a hack posted up without screenshots. I'm going to get to that, a little later on today you'll have some screens to get your grubby little hands on  anyways, the hack. What is it? Well, Luna and Sol are to Gold and Silver as Fire and Leaf are to Red and Green(Blue). Yes, a restoration hack by MajinBlueDragon and Coolboyman based off Fire Red's engine. Many n00bs have tried in the past, and many have failed. Miserably. And after months of progress I felt is about time to make an anouncement. You might figure this is a simple remake, hm? You could say that, but then again was FR/LG just a simple remake of Red/Green? Heres whats down with Luna and Sol. The map designer on this project is none other than Coolboyman, author of the infamous Pokemon Brown (which, in the eyes of many, is perhaps the greatest hack of Pokemon Red to date). He has been working hard to make the maps not only close to the original, but with a little somthing extra to add that "advanced step" to it, just like Fire and Leaf. Graphics and sound are being done by yours truly. I must thank Remy for a bit of help on item and tilesets, as well as the artist formerly known as Mareep for allowing his gym leaders to be a base for my own. However, I am quite proud of what I have done myself. In addition to fully functional male and female heros, the Pokemon have all been ugraded from their Gold version form into their 16-bit glory. Thats right, completly recolored Pokemon, authentic to the original style. A few such as Wartortle or Tediursa remain the same as in F/L, however, I found that they suited it more. Sound. Very few hacks now adays utalise this. Once again, yours truly has been hard at work designing the soundtrack for this hack. Perhaps an MP3 demo may be apropriate? If enough interest is sparked, then I won't hesitate. Your favorite old-school sounds from back in Johto have been restored as acuratly as possible, in the "advance style" used in both Ruby/Sapphire and Fire/Leaf. I even went the extra step and utalised a few extra instrumental sounds which were not present in the original game. Replay value? Very few hacks now adays go that extra step for the players. As most people loved that hidden island feature in Fire Red, a special island has been designed from scratch by Coolboyman, which allows Pokemon from Ruby and Sapphire to be captured. I even included a few songs from Ruby and Sapphire locations, to add that nostalgic taste to the air. What are we planning? Adding secret bases back into the game is up in the air--it might end up in there, it might not. Also, we are currently working hard (and thanks to a little help from Kawa finding a script or two) in order to get day and night functionality working as well as day-activated events. A Pokegear is also in the works. Who else has contributed to this project? We've worked up quite a bit of hype among hackers who know us, so much that so many people wanted to lend us their support. TheChainDog has been incredibly helpful, if it was not for him I probably would not have been as adept at my graphic restoration skills. Jason was a great help in providing information from the original games, and throwing out ideas of how we could make them work with the advanced engine, as well as checking up on us and making sure we were working steadily. Kawa has been extremly helpful with his time-related Rubikon scripts, and hes just been generaly supportive the whole time. And last but not least, Remmy contributed his work to some item and tileset peices, while Mareep was kind enough to allow his Johto Gym leaders to be used as a spriting base for my edits. When can you expect a demo? Hopefully, a demo will be released in the near future, but great things cannot be rushed. We are working hard to bring you the best possible hack, and that takes time. With patience and dedication, this hack will hopefully encourage other hackers-to-be to do better, more full-fledged hacks. Some screenshots can be expected as late as tomorrow, though I hope to have some up for you all tonight. Any comments you have, feel free to leave 'em here. I'm open to anything you have to say  |
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interdpth Rex Level: 36 Posts: 108/527 EXP: 294398 For next: 13712 Since: 03-20-04 Since last post: 10 days Last activity: 31 days |
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| Wow that sounds so cool MBD, I gotta see the screenies. | |||
Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 3874/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| I hadn't heard anything about this project earlier, unless Kawachan slipped a line or two. If he did that, then I have just forgot that... Nice, now i'm just waiting for a offical Gold and Silver remake... *cough*  (you never know )At least your giving us info, that's good... but we also want proof. But I belive this hack is real. Keep it up, and post some screenshots.  Nice that there is some sound hacking, I know how it works but hadn't been bothering looking into it. Keep the secret base thing, it adds depth to the game. Especially if you play it on the real GBA with another player. (hopefully the linking works on hacked games ) I love the secret base thing, mostly becuse I like designing my room. And I like to battle people I know at anytime.  |
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MetalBlueKirby Mole Permaban - You didn't learn from your ban. Level: 30  Posts: 73/365 EXP: 154566 For next: 11303 Since: 06-29-04 From: Dream Land, Popstar Planet Since last post: 435 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| I don't think Linking works on any ROM, hacked or unhacked. The reason is so: it was programmed to use a special hardware that has special software. This software uses the hardware to tell the game it's ready for the transfer. This software and hardware also works with Sapphire/Ruby/FR/LG, as they check for both the hardware and the software (I think). If it's not found, the link attempt is canceled. If it's found, it waits for a signal of some sort that the transfer is ready. Then the data transfer begins. The transfer must continue until the link is over. The game checks for the hardware/software constantly until the link sequence is over. also, the hardware and/or software check for a valid game on the other end. E.x. GBA - - - - - - Cable============================Cable---Gba2 GBA sends a signal to Cable to check for a valid game at Gba2. Gba2 mirrors. Cable checks. It gets signal. Both games are notified. Transfer begins. Now, the only way for this to be possibly is to make some currently-impossible VBA-compatible software that links up two seperate VBA windows using seperate SGMs and/or seperate ROMS. This is not possible. Thus, linking is not possible. Realize that I could be wrong- this is just a theory. A very likely one. However, you can "trick" the player: Make it seem like it's linking up. Let's say ya wanna trade. It picks a trainer at random to send the data that's required over. There should be several trainers. They each should have different data. The trainer is picked at random. So you'd encounter trainers with different teams and record corner data every time until you've encountered all of them. This would require probably heavy ASM to recreate most of it. But, if you have the code for all the link features, just modify it and do the nessecary changes from there. Before you try this, however, you may want to try to implement link-up features to link up with a seperate ROM instead of a randomly picked trainer with random data inside the game. That's not linking up. Asmuch as it can seem so. Oh, and you wanna base for day/night code? MetalBlueKirby's most recent posts, EliteMap FAQ, Page 7, one has the base code. org whatever checkflag whatever if lastresult true go to whereever(1) if lastresult false whereever(2) break org whereever(1) (change weather back to normal) unsetflag break org whereever(2) (change weather to, perhaps, BIT DARK, or make a new weather setting, NIGHT) setflag break You'll need real flags, you'll need to check that no tiles are glitched in the weather, they shouldn't be check the post for more details put in map script it is guaranteed that you will need to modify this code, as I have no idea how to make it check the time of day. Probably ASM. |
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Keitaro Iron Knuckle ウラシマ ケイタロウ Level: 54 Posts: 530/1342 EXP: 1201569 For next: 32301 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hinata, Japan Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| hmmmm...I was thinking along the lines of having 3 sets of pallets...Morning, Day, Night (hey, theres enough room ) and having it switch between them at designated times...oh, of course Pokemon data would change too for tall grass and (I think at least a few) caves and forests. Only thing is, 3 sets per map...:s we'll have to look into this a little more. And Kitten Yiffer, as far as screenshots go...don't worry. I'm trying to get in touch with the mappist, so he can in turn show me his most recent work and I can add on my graphical edits and compile screenshots from it. I know I said I'd try to get some tonight but...I promise, tomorrow won't be fruitless least I can do is post up a sound MP3 of sorts...let me get to that  (edited by MajinBlueDragon on 08-02-04 11:16 PM) |
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Jason Sand Crab Level: 25 Posts: 44/221 EXP: 80238 For next: 9382 Since: 03-16-04 From: Australia Since last post: 9 days Last activity: 1 day |
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| I'm Jason, the dude who helped Majinbluedragon with loads of ideas and stuffs. Before this hack was ever started. I used to have my own progrss but I gave up due to reallife and other works that are more improtant than the hacks. When I about to revive it, CBM gave me news about his progress that I didnt know before. Instead of revivng it, I gave away ALL OF MY IDEAS to him, including sprites, buildings, and other GFX stuffs, contributed by Remy35, Cuddles & DeltaSuicune. I really hope this hack progress going very well. ~Jason |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 3889/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| MBKirby, I was talking about transferring the game over to a flash cart. Were I would use it on the real GBA. And oh, linking emulation works. I know as I have tested it, check out This thread. I'm gonna test out a rom hack with the linking, probably should work unless there is some wierd checksum thing. Majinbluedragon, yeah we also want MP3's. I have only heard custom made music by bouche so far. ...your hacking Fire red before the US version get's released?  (edited by Kitten Yiffer on 08-03-04 09:15 AM) |
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Baro Hoarder Level: 30  Posts: 30/366 EXP: 153824 For next: 12045 Since: 07-07-04 From: Portonovo, Spain Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 15 hours |
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| Hey! My hack from pokemon ruby and sapphire will be also sol and luna: PokemonZOE Sol rojo (red Sun) PokemonZOE Luna Azul (Blue moon) But I think it isn't an original idea, I think... so... |
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Keitaro Iron Knuckle ウラシマ ケイタロウ Level: 54 Posts: 531/1342 EXP: 1201569 For next: 32301 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hinata, Japan Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| probably not, as our hacks have been in the works since early late december and the names were decided a tiny bit later. And yeah...hacking the japanese one,,yeah, with the american release so close, it seems pointless? We figured why wait around, get as much work done as possible and port it all--maps, graphics, the whole nine yards into the english verrsion. its all the same data-wise, just a few pointers here and there and we're set. Anyways, I'm talking to CBM. I'm getting screens and MP3's to post up, so its not as though I'm all talk |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 3909/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| Ok, i'm mostly intrested in the MP3's. How many hacks are going to have custom music? Ok, I don't know you will do the porting. I hadn't heard it being done before, but good luck. |
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PowerBub Micro-Goomba Level: 8  Posts: 8/18 EXP: 1865 For next: 322 Since: 03-16-04 Since last post: 149 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| Wow this sounds like its gonna be a really cool Pokemon edit. Will be interesting to see the screens when you get a chance to take them. | |||
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MetalBlueKirby Mole Permaban - You didn't learn from your ban. Level: 30 Posts: 77/365 EXP: 154566 For next: 11303 Since: 06-29-04 From: Dream Land, Popstar Planet Since last post: 435 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| Holy ----! I didn't think porting a ROM Hack from CPU to GBA is legal! As it is, I don't even have flash hardware. I get my ROMS at sites. I'd get Ruby, but someone's site (forget Acmlm name, sorry) (at my thread that was closed (GDI, I didn't respond in time to remove the--)) is blocked by AOL Parental Controls, I need AIM for Interdpth to send it to me (I use IM), and the APCC isn't working... | |||
MewFreak55555 Koopa Level: 17  Posts: 40/106 EXP: 23417 For next: 1326 Since: 07-30-04 From: Somewhere in the North,or east,west? Since last post: 234 days Last activity: 234 days |
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| I got a game(that is hacked(goldVersion(name is umm....I forgot what the name is)That the guy who hacked it Put Treecko in it......It evolves like it is RS | |||
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timdevril Newcomer Level: 4  Posts: 2/4 EXP: 170 For next: 109 Since: 08-05-04 From: Oliver B.C. Canada Since last post: 449 days Last activity: 339 days |
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 i can't wait for you to release a demo! |
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MetalBlueKirby Mole Permaban - You didn't learn from your ban. Level: 30 Posts: 86/365 EXP: 154566 For next: 11303 Since: 06-29-04 From: Dream Land, Popstar Planet Since last post: 435 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| If you find out how to make Day and Night support such as Day/Night only events and stuff, please tell me. Also, I'm gonna ask this as calmly as possible, but, considering t would be a revolution in hacking to me... OMFG, YOU'RE MAKING NEW PALETTES? COOL! HOW DO YOU MAKE NEW PALETTES IN FREE SPACE!? HOW!?   *Automated Message: This was a message from MetalBlueKirby. Have a nice day! * |
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Keitaro Iron Knuckle ウラシマ ケイタロウ Level: 54 Posts: 535/1342 EXP: 1201569 For next: 32301 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hinata, Japan Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| er. we have no intention of releasing that info, you do know that. this would be why |
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MetalBlueKirby Mole Permaban - You didn't learn from your ban. Level: 30 Posts: 92/365 EXP: 154566 For next: 11303 Since: 06-29-04 From: Dream Land, Popstar Planet Since last post: 435 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| darn...and I was thinkin' about puttin you in the credits in the readme- and the person who found that info- and possibly hacking the game credits... nuts.       |
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Keitaro Iron Knuckle ウラシマ ケイタロウ Level: 54 Posts: 544/1342 EXP: 1201569 For next: 32301 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hinata, Japan Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| basicly, I could tell ya h ow to do the pallets inf ree space, but thats about it. Just create the pallet you want, inser t it to any blank space of the rom, and point to it from the appropriate location. actualy not hard at all |
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MetalBlueKirby Mole Permaban - You didn't learn from your ban. Level: 30 Posts: 106/365 EXP: 154566 For next: 11303 Since: 06-29-04 From: Dream Land, Popstar Planet Since last post: 435 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| Fine. I do need the palette info... Then, if it's possible to make new tilesets, I can use the new palette and make... a Kirby tileset so that... if EliteMap gains a feature to make new maps... I CAN MAKE KIRBY'S FOUNTAIN OF DREAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH YEAH! I hope these features are acquired... |
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Dylan Devil Trumpets and Angel Trombones ~ Level: 54  Posts: 562/1407 EXP: 1181697 For next: 52173 Since: 06-19-04 From: Ottawa, Canada. Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 6 hours |
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This hack sounds very promising, mbd. Oh, and Metal Blue Kirby, can you put that picture in your signature, if you have to have it? It looks rather odd in the header..  |
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