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Posted on 07-24-04 03:14 PM Link | Quote
I beat Final Fantasy using four white mages.

Who else has or can do that?

I didn't think it would be even possible but it is. A bit hard though.
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Posted on 07-24-04 03:21 PM Link | Quote
Congrats man, that's one heck of an accomplishment.


I haven't done it yet, but I've been wanting to give it a try as soon as I've finished a few other things (I always seem to have too many projects going on at once ). I don't think I'd have any trouble doing it though; I've beaten that game several times with parties that were... odd, and I level up pathologically anyway in FF games.


Btw, did you use a real NES to do it?
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Posted on 07-24-04 03:22 PM Link | Quote
Nope, used the rom. But I didn't make use of savestates. Didn't really find them necessary.
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Posted on 07-24-04 03:30 PM Link | Quote
They aren't really, unless you don't spend way too little time levelling.

What level was the party at when you beat Chaos?
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Posted on 07-24-04 09:13 PM Link | Quote
I've done it with 3. Mwahaha.

Some guy at GameFAQs did it with one WM. At level 14. (or something)
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Posted on 07-24-04 11:03 PM Link | Quote
level 14? with 1 WM

that isn't possible he must have cheated...

as with 4 white mages, not that bad Legion. I guess the next step is to do it with less people...
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Posted on 07-24-04 11:23 PM Link | Quote
Wow.

The only challenge I plan on trying is the single Red Mage. At least there's still some pre-Masamune offense.
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Posted on 07-25-04 01:19 AM Link | Quote
Old 8-bit theater reference...making runs...through my head...

I still have yet to beat the damned game to begin with.
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Posted on 07-25-04 01:57 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by neotransotaku
level 14? with 1 WM

that isn't possible he must have cheated...



If by "cheating", you mean understanding how the random battle system wrks, and plan ahead so he didn't get into any ugly battles, then yes, he cheated.

And I remember he used the Bane Sword at Chaos (it has 1/256 chanse of killing those immune to instant death)
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Posted on 07-25-04 03:31 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Adamant
And I remember he used the Bane Sword at Chaos (it has 1/256 chanse of killing those immune to instant death)
I thought Chaos was immune to the Bane Sword as well?

Firing up FFHackster... checking Chaos... yep, resistant to everything, including Bane.

Was the guy playing the WSC or PlayStation ports, or something?
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Posted on 07-25-04 05:15 AM Link | Quote
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Originally posted by Adamant
And I remember he used the Bane Sword at Chaos (it has 1/256 chanse of killing those immune to instant death)
I thought Chaos was immune to the Bane Sword as well?

Firing up FFHackster... checking Chaos... yep, resistant to everything, including Bane.

Was the guy playing the WSC or PlayStation ports, or something?


No, it was the NES original. Yes, Chaos is immune to Bane, but there's still 1/256 chanse of it affecting him. It has to do with the coding, and how they used "greater than" instead of "greater than or equal to". Or something. Ask Disch, he knows.
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Posted on 07-25-04 02:01 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Adamant
No, it was the NES original. Yes, Chaos is immune to Bane, but there's still 1/256 chanse of it affecting him. It has to do with the coding, and how they used "greater than" instead of "greater than or equal to". Or something. Ask Disch, he knows.
Ah, one of those bugs.

Yeah, the FF code is littered with such things... it amazes me sometimes, after having studied the FF code, that some of it actually works at all.
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Posted on 07-25-04 03:44 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Adamant
If by "cheating", you mean understanding how the random battle system wrks, and plan ahead so he didn't get into any ugly battles, then yes, he cheated.


That is a LOT of dodged battles...i guess someone had the patience to do the work necessary to do so because I recall the battle system being fixed...even if one were to use save states, there was no way to avoid an on coming fight. i remember using items were futile and changing equipment didn't do anything good...i guess it was just me then...
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