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Posted on 07-22-04 09:32 AM Link | Quote
Well, I was thinking about starting a Zelda2 hack, so I looked for an editor, and found one on Zophar. Problem is, it runs on DOS, and Windows XP doesn't have DOS, it has Command Prompt. Command Prompt really is identical to dos, but a lot of programs don't seem to think so. Can I tweak something on my system or get a patch to overcome this problem? If not I suppose I could download dos32.exe, but thats a final resort.

Also if I end up downloading it and installing, will it run just like command prompt or will it convert my entire OS to dos?


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Posted on 07-22-04 09:47 AM Link | Quote
I would reccomend DOSBox DOS emulator, I dont have the link just try googling it.

dos32.exe? Ive never heard of this, you can also use freedos but for something like an editor go with a DOS emu.
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Posted on 07-22-04 10:41 AM Link | Quote
(1) have you tried running the program in XP?
(2) If that didn't work, then bochs is an alternative you can try in comparison to DOSBox. Bochs is meant to actually be a computer you can work on while DOSBox is aimed written to allow people to play good 'ol DOS games.
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Posted on 07-22-04 01:57 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by neotransotaku

(2) If that didn't work, then bochs is an alternative you can try in comparison to DOSBox. Bochs is meant to actually be a computer you can work on while DOSBox is aimed written to allow people to play good 'ol DOS games.
DOSBox will probably be easier for him -- Bochs would require him to setup a disk image and everything, and transfering files to and from those images requires special programs (or a hex editor, and intimate knowledge of the involved filesystems ).
DOSBox works with the directories you already have, OTOH.
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Posted on 07-22-04 05:04 PM Link | Quote
It even runs Windows 3.1

Another alternative is making a boot disc with Freedos, but that's a overkill having to restart your computer each time you wan't to use a DOS program.

Which editor was it? I'm going to test it with dosbox.
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Heh... I have a computer with eight gigabytes of disk space and just FreeDOS on it. I use it for DOS games. It works wonderfully well.

You can only legally get MS-DOS (and certain other DOSes) from Microsoft or an authorized vender. Although Microsoft doesn't really care anymore about piracy of DOS... you can get it via a quick Google search, without much trouble at all. I wouldn't trust those sites as much as having the legal MS-DOS disks (I still have my DOS 6.22 disks), for trojans and other things may be injected into them.

FreeDOS basically aims to be a 100% compatible, (legally) free, and open MS-DOS clone. Much in the same way Linux aimed (and succeeded) to be a free UNIX clone. So far, they're very close to obtaining their goal; it runs virtually every DOS program ever made. It doesn't run Windows 3.x yet -- the ultimate test would be to see if Windows 95/98 can be fooled to run on FreeDOS instead of MS-DOS 7.1 .
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I don't have any CD-RWs currently so I wrote freedos to a floppy with winimage. It boots up fine, but I don't know how to install it so I can access the C drive. Apparently there is no available hard disk partition to install freedos, when it clearly states I have something like 59 gigs free. The freedos readme. Can anyone help...


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Sure.

first of all, why don't you make a disk of Ranish Parttion Manager and tell use the partition(s) and types that there are.
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It wouldn't install from the batch file, I don't know what the problem was. Is there any other partitioning software?

Yes I had a disk in the drive when I tried to install it.
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err... I'll just put a self-extracting disk image up for you with a bootable Ranish thing for you...

Download it here: http://mike.warpedbelief.com/crap/part.exe
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Thank you FreeDOS, I really appreciate that. Now to install er... FreeDOS!
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Posted on 07-23-04 10:06 AM Link | Quote
I'm just wondering, have you tried running the zelda editor yet in XP?
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Posted on 07-23-04 12:55 PM Link | Quote
I have a feeling that he wouldn't be asking for how to install DOS if he didn't.
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Posted on 07-23-04 08:15 PM Link | Quote
Command Prompt really is identical to dos, but a lot of programs don't seem to think so.

This sounds like an assumption and doesn't imply he did run the program first. I guess, I'll have to download that same program and sees if it runs on my XP system.
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Posted on 07-23-04 11:01 PM Link | Quote
Actually its not an assumption, whenever I try to run something for dos using command prompt, I always get the error "dos32.exe not found" and then it locks up on me.
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Posted on 07-23-04 11:55 PM Link | Quote
DOS32 is a DOS extender. I remember once having to find it (Google)... An extender provides extra memory to the program than DOS normally allocates (for example, higher than MS-DOS' 64 MB RAM limit), or provides protected mode API calls to a version of DOS that only runs in real mode.

It may or may not work under Windows XP when you have DOS32. It probably won't run under FreeDOS (or MS-DOS, PC-DOS, etc) without DOS32, either.


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