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Dylan Devil Trumpets and Angel Trombones ~ Level: 54  Posts: 188/1407 EXP: 1181697 For next: 52173 Since: 06-19-04 From: Ottawa, Canada. Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 6 hours |
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| For any of you who fancy 8-bit computing, what do you think is the best C64 emulator? I personally think the only way to go is CCS64. The joystick support is actually quite responsive. My favorite games are Commando, the Ultima series, and Nautilus. (edited by Gb boy on 07-14-04 11:54 AM) |
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LocalH Red Goomba Level: 12  Posts: 13/46 EXP: 7612 For next: 309 Since: 03-17-04 Since last post: 25 days Last activity: 4 days |
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| A tie between CCS and VICE. VICE offers some features that CCS doesn't, like the ability to emulate the 1541-II (required for some demos), 1571 (no fast serial support), and 1581. But, it's easier to get CCS to run as if it was a PAL machine, but yet still synced to the screen (usually 60Hz for me), which improves the quality of demo effects that alternate colors/images every frame to achieve color/resolution interlacing. Plus, VICE also has a nifty, realistic composite/S-Video PAL emulation, which really gives you that old-school nostalgic feeling. CCS has a PAL emulation too, but it doesn't look quite right, I prefer VICE's PAL emulation. And, this almost goes without saying, if you want to emulate any of the other machines that VICE emulates, in addition to the 64, then definitely download VICE. x128 runs nicely and gives you access to most of the system's capabilities (although the VDC part of Risen From Oblivion/Crest doesn't work 100%, but still). (edited by LocalH on 07-16-04 12:02 AM) |
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Valentine Revolution Leever Level: 24  Posts: 138/199 EXP: 68616 For next: 9509 Since: 03-15-04 From: UK Since last post: 103 days Last activity: 59 days |
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| I was gonna make a new topic, but I mught as well hope and pray that it'll get some attention in this one. I can't get a single C64 emu to work. Any ideas? WinVICE - Won't let me use Player One, even when I config the keyset. It only lets me use Player Two, rendering all single player games useless. CCS64 - Randomly crashes, usually 15 mins into a game. Frodo - It won't let you change the keyset and I have a laptop so no numeric keypad. Hox64 - Won't even load anything. I really would love a bit of help otherwise I might actually have to clean my room and get my real C64 out  |
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LocalH Red Goomba Level: 12 Posts: 18/46 EXP: 7612 For next: 309 Since: 03-17-04 Since last post: 25 days Last activity: 4 days |
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| That's probably not an emu issue with VICE - many C64 games, even single player ones, used port 2, especially those that used the system KERNAL routines for reading the joystick - it would conflict with the keyboard (good way to test this - wiggle the stick in port 1 when you're at the blue READY screen). Just set VICE up for your preferred control method on whichever port the game works with - if it's a single player game, you can try setting both ports to the same, unless there are any weird problems. I'm not sure what's up with CCS crashing, I don't have problems like this. Do you mean the emulator itself crashes, or rather merely the emulated C64? If it's just the C64 crashing, it could be a PAL/NTSC issue, as the vast majority of cracked games are PAL. I don't use Frodo or Hoxs64 so I know nothing about them. (edited by LocalH on 07-27-04 04:41 PM) |
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Dylan Devil Trumpets and Angel Trombones ~ Level: 54 Posts: 472/1407 EXP: 1181697 For next: 52173 Since: 06-19-04 From: Ottawa, Canada. Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 6 hours |
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| ON CCS64, the prefered control method is via joystick. Having it try to respond to in-game keyboard commands will cause it to crash. It happened to me, then when I bought my new computer I got a free gaming accessory, so I chose a joystick. Eventually I ended up wanting to try CCS64 again, and it recognized the joystick and allowed me to calibrate it and use it for control. Since that worked fine, I never really got around to trying the other emus like Vice, so I couldn't tell you anything about that. | |||
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Valentine Revolution Leever Level: 24 Posts: 141/199 EXP: 68616 For next: 9509 Since: 03-15-04 From: UK Since last post: 103 days Last activity: 59 days |
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| I don't have a joystick, they're way too expensive. I tried setting both ports the same, and in Bubble Bobble that works fine, but things like Dizzy and Cauldron II really don't like it, and won't move at all. | |||
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Dylan Devil Trumpets and Angel Trombones ~ Level: 54 Posts: 503/1407 EXP: 1181697 For next: 52173 Since: 06-19-04 From: Ottawa, Canada. Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 6 hours |
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| That tends to happen. Even though there is a vast collection of roms for the C64, and many good emus, c64 emulation still remains quite buggy. So its quite likely a problem that can't be resolved. But just to test, tweak your emu's gfx settings first. | |||
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LocalH Red Goomba Level: 12 Posts: 19/46 EXP: 7612 For next: 309 Since: 03-17-04 Since last post: 25 days Last activity: 4 days |
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| No, it's not. C64 emulation is pretty much 99.5% accurate at the moment. The same thing would happen on real hardware if you had a way to hook the same controller up to both ports. Some games just don't like it, and trying to fix this in the emulator is bad for accuracy. If a game doesn't work with both ports selected, then pick the one port that does work. CCS64 has never given me any major problems with games, that didn't also happen on the real hardware. Bad cracks notwithstanding, most games should run the same as on real hardware. If a game doesn't work, make sure you're set to the correct video standard, PAL or NTSC (and in CCS64, make sure you try the 65 cycle NTSC setting first before using the 64 cycle one, as the 65 cycle VIC-II is most common). Also, judge this based on the actual game, and not any crackintros, unless the crackintro actually crashes or refuses to let you go on. If you have problems loading a disk game in VICE, make sure you turn true drive emulation on, and for best compatibility make sure you're emulating an original 1541 and not a 1541-II, 1571, or 1581. |
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