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lost child Newcomer Level: 5 Posts: 4/8 EXP: 497 For next: 32 Since: 07-08-04 From: sacramento Since last post: 480 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| what is a friend, by deffinition?? 1. someone whom one knows and likes. what about foe?? 1. an enemy or opponent. so what turns friends into foes?? i mean, aren't friends supose to be there for you, i mean even if u change..as friends, aren't u supose to grow with one another?? i know some body who had a so called friend who just started hattin on her because of rumors?? what is that--  , lettin ur friendship being broken up by something u don't even kno is true?? but anyway...if u know why or just have any opinions just let me kno cause i really don't understand.--  (edited by lost child on 07-08-04 12:24 AM) (edited by lost child on 07-08-04 12:26 AM) (edited by Acmlm on 07-08-04 12:40 AM) |
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Prier Archangel Administrative Priestess. NUCLEAR SUB WEEEOOOO Level: 119  Posts: 1957/8392 EXP: 18790939 For next: 138352 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima Dist. - Tokyo, Japan Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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| Well, that was fun decrypting all of that English. It's quite simple really, people change, and most times if there's something about a person that someone doesn't like or if some conflict gets set off between two people, especially around the teenager age because apparently emotions flare a lot worse then, usually it gets to the point where people can't get along anymore. That, and sometimes people are just plain stupid in terms of popularity. High School is notorious for that. Can't say I haven't let a friend or two go myself though, I have quite a bit of patience...but when someone screws around with me too long I eventually tell them how it is, and it's very rarely that someone recovers from it afterwards and the two get along again. It's just life in general, and for anyone affected by that, like if a friend left you or ex-friend or whatever, you've still got plenty of life left to find several other people. Chances to make a friend are daily, so go for broke. |
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Anya The Exile Ultima Mezcla de Yin Yan Level: 98  Posts: 2083/5337 EXP: 9530313 For next: 124040 Since: 03-15-04 From: South Florida Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| I know people, heck, will consider them as my friend, but there's only about 4 people that I would die and fight for if need be and that I hold in a higher regard than others. | |||
Apple Kodondo Level: 38 Posts: 118/594 EXP: 350163 For next: 20284 Since: 03-27-04 From: Washington. Since last post: 264 days Last activity: 152 days |
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| First and foremost. The word Friend is a lot like the word Love; it is thrown around way to often. Second. You're in school. Your friends mean shit. Very few of the people you call friends will remain friends after high school. It |
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Dracoon Zelda The temp ban/forum ban bypasser! Level: 84  Posts: 837/3727 EXP: 5514391 For next: 147561 Since: 03-25-04 From: At home Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| Well thats a good message to tell people... Don't just say shit happens, because it doesn't just happen. I am sure there is something that just happened htat was stupid and if either of you are smart enough to swallow and say sorry everything might turn out better. Even if you don't like the person you can still be nice say sorry and get over it. I can say absolutly sure that the two real friends I have now will always be my friends. That is what makes them real friends. Oh your whole perception of friend is messed up. A friend is someone that is willing to accept your changes and you should be able to accept theirs. Even if they can't accept your changes they should be able to learn. A friend can't always be there for you only when they are around will they be there. |
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Anya The Exile Ultima Mezcla de Yin Yan Level: 98 Posts: 2087/5337 EXP: 9530313 For next: 124040 Since: 03-15-04 From: South Florida Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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Originally posted by Apple |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 977/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| When it comes to having non-romantic relationships with people, i consider there are three levels: 1) Acquaintences -- if you have meet the person once, this is where they are. in short, it is everyone you know. 2) Friends -- they are people that you not only know, but you talk to on occassion. However, there are mostly specific topics you can talk about but otherwise, not much. You don't hang out with them outside of school and similar. Basically, if you run out of things to talk about this is about where they are in your relationship hierarchy. 3) Close/Best Friends -- they are people that you not only know and can talk to on a few or a lot of topics, but they have your back and you have theirs. So when you need them to be there for you, they will and vice versa. That last part has to go two ways and is the key to knowing who your friends really are. If they have your back, they are definately one worth keeping. As for foes, chances are if the person you talk to hasn't made it to level 3, then they will be easily become a foe because they aren't close to you and really have nothing to do with you or something like that. I've never made enemies but if I did, they would have started out at level 1 or 2... |
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Grey the Stampede Don't mess with powers you don't understand. And yes. That means donuts. Level: 82  Posts: 100/3770 EXP: 5192909 For next: 16318 Since: 06-17-04 From: Kingston, RI, USA, Earth Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| I classify a friend as someone I can completely trust, someone I can tell stuff and make sure it doesn't come flying back at me. As I don't trust many people (I used to be a very trusting person, turned out quite badly), I don't consider myself a person with many very close friends. Certainly there are people whom I would gladly be friends with, but more often than not it's just a matter of not being able to keep in contact with them, or just not being able to trust them for some reason. There can be friends one does not trust, and friends that one still likes despite their faults (I have several of these, whom I love dearly), but often these are not the mainstream definition of a friend, and are instead valuable exceptions. One of my closest friends has many unappealing factors to him; he makes racial slurs constantly and is at times abusive, but then he makes deep sentimental comments that show that he doesn't actually mean any of the hurtful things he says, and that a human really does exist underneath all of the jokes and comments. The thing about him is, if you don't know him, you won't understand why his friends have no problem with the mean things he does. If you do know him, chances are you're willing to be his friend because you see the good in him. He puts no malice into any of his jokes, and recognizing that that is his style of humor is what makes his friends true friends. |
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Bella Ludwig Von Koopa You're Gonna Love Me Level: 76  Posts: 587/2962 EXP: 3891483 For next: 114577 Since: 03-29-04 From: Groovy Way Since last post: 8 min. Last activity: 6 min. |
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| Yeah, I have friends and Best Friends and just those "Hi and bye" friends. Friends are the ones that you just talk to in class or hang out with at lunch. We would mostly talk just at school or they'd call me if they missed a day a school or two to see what was going on in class. Do projects with. Best friends are the ones I'll call, hang out with, go to the movies, spend the night at your house or ask to go places with. They're friends that you can talk about various things to. You can tell them everything if you feel like it. Foes are just..I don't know. I haven't had many..except that one girl who left without saying bye or anything  ..she was my "best friend". OH YEAH..completely left out that other person who is no longer a friend of mine who thought she could come over to my house and get rides and steal my things at the same time. Trying to be nice to my parents and all just for what I have. Don't have anything anymore  Anyways, I don't know how friends turn to foes. I guess it builds up over time. It depends on if you were there for that person when they went through hard times. If you weren't, you might expect them to be there for you at those but they aren't..that could be one way it starts. You think you guys are good friends but then one day it all falls a part.High school friends could last. You just need to put effort into it. I wouldn't say they completely crumble. I don't know yet though. |
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Apple Kodondo Level: 38 Posts: 120/594 EXP: 350163 For next: 20284 Since: 03-27-04 From: Washington. Since last post: 264 days Last activity: 152 days |
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| You might disagree with my whole "Highschool friends mean shit" statement but once you're out of highschool, you'll see that its pretty true. neotransotaku... I leave the whole "Friend" level out. If you're not my close/best friend, you arn't my friend period. |
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Cruel Justice XD Level: 55  Posts: 109/1384 EXP: 1253266 For next: 60923 Since: 03-20-04 From: Darkwoods Penetentiary Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 7 hours |
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| General Ideas: A friend is someone who likes you whereas an enemy(foe) hates your guts. In-Depth Perspective: Comrade (True Friend) -One who will and always has been loyal to you no matter what. Someone who would die for you and stand up for you whenever you're in need. Someone who keeps promises; someone who never forgets those special days and brings you gifts. Buddy (Good Friend) -One who likes to talk to you and enjoys your company as well as you enjoy theirs. Someone you can joke with and laugh about. Gifts are given occasionally. Pal (Friend) -One who enjoys your company at times and talks for a few minutes before leaving. Acquaintence -A person you met, but does'nt seem to take notice in you afterward. Pest (Minor Enemy) -An everyday annoyance that acts weird and likes to laugh about you for fun. Othertimes, quiet; not a big threat. Bully (Enemy) -Someone who comes to make you mad, or hits you occasionally. Insults come back and forth and they can be rather unpleasent to have around. Arch-Nemisis (Worst enemy) -Your opposite, the worst person you could think of in your personal life. This person pisses you off and would enjoy seeing you suffer like a burning insect. Never a polite chat, always a brutal argument or a fist-fight. (edited by The_Raven on 07-08-04 06:49 PM) |
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Prier Archangel Administrative Priestess. NUCLEAR SUB WEEEOOOO Level: 119 Posts: 1965/8392 EXP: 18790939 For next: 138352 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima Dist. - Tokyo, Japan Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by Apple Not necessarily...there's still people I talk to/go visit downstate every so often and I've been out of high school for about two years now. It's extremely difficult yes...since they're all 70 miles away, but IM helps with that. |
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lost child Newcomer Level: 5 Posts: 6/8 EXP: 497 For next: 32 Since: 07-08-04 From: sacramento Since last post: 480 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| that is so sad to think that those you call "friends" in high school may not be ur friends 2morrow... a lot of ppl like myself have this perception that the friends u have now, will be ur friends forever...but it's not true... i have many friends, none of which i think i would give my life up for simply because i know they wouldn't for me..shollow?? i dunno, but i figure that you shouldn't just go around and say that "hey ur my friend, i would die for u man..." not that it would come out that way... but still, a friend should be some one u trust right?? but what if u don't fully trust anyone, well, what i mean is, can anyone fully trust some one, i mean like u would tell them anything and everything?? like things u only know?? if u can't trust ur friends, who can u trust??.. but i digress... (edited by lost child on 07-09-04 01:04 AM) |
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Prier Archangel Administrative Priestess. NUCLEAR SUB WEEEOOOO Level: 119 Posts: 2011/8392 EXP: 18790939 For next: 138352 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima Dist. - Tokyo, Japan Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by lost child Yes, a close friend like that would be someone you can trust with any given information...especially those that you want to keep quiet about things that aren't things you'd like anyone to know about. They break that trust when they don't follow through and either lose their spot in your heart as a friend or drop a few legs in the trust deal. You can't ever tell if someone's going to become an asshole or screw you over. It's the same deal for everyone...no one's safe...but that doesn't mean you should try to have people be your friend regardless of that fact. There's might be some disappointment every once and a while but that doesn't mean it's all the time. Weigh the good with the bad for proof of that with most friends. |
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Apple Kodondo Level: 38 Posts: 124/594 EXP: 350163 For next: 20284 Since: 03-27-04 From: Washington. Since last post: 264 days Last activity: 152 days |
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| I guess I'm gonna retreak my last opinion. Friends through out school are VERY important. They help you deal with the hardships through out life as well as help you develop as a trusting social creature (Cause lets face it, being very antisocial gets you nowhere in the real world). However, most of yourfriends are growing up and are starting to see the world differently, what was once important to them is now pointless. Since prioties change quite often growing up, so friends come and go alot. Its not you, its just that what they want changes and they would rather go for that instead of what you can offer. I know that can (and probably will) be taken as harsh, but it wasn't meant to be. Most people wanted to accepted in highschool. They wanted to be known because lets face it, highschool can be a scary and differcult place, rahter know everybody right? I been there. I was a very popular kid, still am in fact but I no longer care about being popular, my concern is now trying to find loyal friends and what do you know... I'm going back to those elemtary school kids I ditched in middle/high school because I wanted to be popular. If you put in some effort and give it some time (a few months), there is a decent chance you will fix this friendship with your friend. Meh, read the other posters opinions, they have a few years experince on me. |
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Dracoon Zelda The temp ban/forum ban bypasser! Level: 84 Posts: 843/3727 EXP: 5514391 For next: 147561 Since: 03-25-04 From: At home Since last post: 5 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| I can't undestand how you can ditch a friend. That is beyond my comprhension I guess. I have two friends I consider best friends and I know we will always look out for each other. | |||
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Bella Ludwig Von Koopa You're Gonna Love Me Level: 76 Posts: 603/2962 EXP: 3891483 For next: 114577 Since: 03-29-04 From: Groovy Way Since last post: 8 min. Last activity: 6 min. |
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| I almost completely let go of one of my best friends. It was because my ex whatever person tried to brain wash me or something..because he said that she asked me to do all this bad stuff that he didn't want me to hang out with fearing that she would get me into that stuff but I'm not dumb. I know what I'm doing. Then I realized that if I did like completely lose contact with her that I would be losing one of my best friends, I knew her since 5th grade and she helped me out with everything. Guys, family stuff, ways I felt about myself, and other friends. She was always someone I could talk to. I almost let her go but then I said that it wasn't right. She changed a lot in the past years, she used to be shy and everything but not she's completely opposite. I did think a few negative things but I shurgged them off because they didn't mean anything. She never ditched me or made me feel all out of her friends and doesn't forget to ask me to do certain things that her and our other friends do. That has been done to me..and I really don't like it. I have different types of friends. One I can really tell everything to and we talk about it and then others. Some things that suck is that when you want to tell a friend things..and you tell them..and you expect them to help you with it..but they don't say anything to you at all about it. You want them to tell you things but they don't tell you anything about their own self. |
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KATW King Yoshi "If you stare at something long enough, it can be funny." Level: 86  Posts: 1297/3959 EXP: 6087979 For next: 54128 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 7 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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| Hmm... my friends... I have 3 very close friends I hang out with now... these are the people who Ive given my trust to, who I have fun with the most, and who I would like to keep in touch with for years and years to come. We all know eachother, we all have this bond... and it keeps us together. I met alot of people this year at school. By the end of teh year, I had become friends with a few of them. Most of them I have known since Elementery school and havent bothered to carry on a lasting relationship with. The other half of them I have just met, and got on friendly terms with them. I also met the friends of my other friends, and we were able to become aquainted. Then theres the other people I met, and will probably forget by the end of the summer. There are only a few pests I met last year... they werent that bad, I just didnt want to be around them, and thay wanted to be around me ALL THE TIME , Either that, or they just though I was weird and made fun of me not that I cared.Bullies... I only have a few of them... I mainly avoid them in the hallway. Foes... sadly, I lost one of my so called friends to the darkside... we werent exactly the best of friends, but we were on good terms... then he started picking on me, and everything fell through the floor. We can carry a friendly conversation every once in a while... but its usually on thin ice from there. Thats my life... pretty good for me... I keep my friends, keep distance with my foes. Its important to keep your friends everyone...  |
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Ran-chan Moldorm eek, when are they going to stop growing... Level: 143  Posts: 1828/12781 EXP: 35293588 For next: 538220 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima District, Tokyo - Japan Since last post: 12 hours Last activity: 12 hours |
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MarioFreakazoid Newcomer Level: 5 Posts: 2/8 EXP: 495 For next: 34 Since: 07-10-04 From: UK Since last post: 396 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| But my foes have all suddenly become my friends. What has happened? |
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