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Yoshi Dude XKEEPER STOLE MY CAR KEYS Level: 79  Posts: 20/3271 EXP: 4572680 For next: 6787 Since: 03-15-04 From: give me a number folks. Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Why do you people use BMPs? They're a major inconvenience. I can't view them unless I go into quicktime. And they have a fat file size. It sucks. There's a reason why websites use GIF, JPG, or PNG. | |||
Acmlm Torosu heh Level: 51  Posts: 136/1173 EXP: 981994 For next: 31944 Since: 03-15-04 From: Somewhere that isn't outside of Sherbrooke, Québec, Canada Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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Maybe they only have Paint  But yes, BMP really sucks when it comes to this ... at least use GIF or PNG if you don't want JPG compression lowering the image quality, not only do they have a much lower filesize (depending on what's in the image) but they have more features and more widely supported by browsers ... For example, a NES or SNES screenshot in 8bit BMP is 56k ... in 8bit PNG, the same thing is around 5k, and 4bit PNG (for NES screenshots) will even give 2k images pretty often  |
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VGFreak877 Buzz Blob Level: 28  Posts: 46/294 EXP: 123189 For next: 8149 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hillsborough, NH Since last post: 60 days Last activity: 1 hour |
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But Acmlm -- even if someone only has Paint, a person can change the extension from *.bmp to *.jpeg or *.jpg very easily.  It's not that hard. |
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Originally posted by VGFreak877 But Acmlm -- even if someone only has Paint, a person can change the extension from *.bmp to *.jpeg or *.jpg very easily. It's not that hard. Depends on the computer. For instance the laptop where this layout came from only supports BMP, so there =P And just switching it to JPG means nothign, they're diffrent formats |
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VGFreak877 Buzz Blob Level: 28 Posts: 47/294 EXP: 123189 For next: 8149 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hillsborough, NH Since last post: 60 days Last activity: 1 hour |
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lol, let rephrase what I just said. I wanted to avoid putting this in, because I thought it was understood, but oh well.  If you were to load a particular *.bmp file in Paint and wanted to save it a different way, then you can pick "Save As" from the file menu and change the file format from *.bmp to *.jpg/*.jpeg/*.gif/*.png in the drop-down menu when you type in the file name. (edited by VGFreak877 on 03-16-04 07:44 PM) |
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Yoshi Dude XKEEPER STOLE MY CAR KEYS Level: 79 Posts: 22/3271 EXP: 4572680 For next: 6787 Since: 03-15-04 From: give me a number folks. Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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In all paint programs I've seen (not many), I don't remember there being those options.  Just .bmp and some other weird thing. |
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Surverus Paratroopa Level: 21  Posts: 17/149 EXP: 44438 For next: 5505 Since: 03-15-04 From: Chatham, Kent, England, UK, Europe, Earth. Since last post: 116 days Last activity: 105 days |
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| My paint has GIF JPG BMP PNG and TIFF.. Thats on Windows XP. | |||
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VGFreak877 Buzz Blob Level: 28 Posts: 48/294 EXP: 123189 For next: 8149 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hillsborough, NH Since last post: 60 days Last activity: 1 hour |
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Acmlm Torosu heh Level: 51 Posts: 141/1173 EXP: 981994 For next: 31944 Since: 03-15-04 From: Somewhere that isn't outside of Sherbrooke, Québec, Canada Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by Yoshi ARR In all paint programs I've seen (not many), I don't remember there being those options. Just .bmp and some other weird thing.PCX? Yeah, Paint supports JPG now, and maybe GIF too (haven't checked, and I got rid of Paint long ago so I can't either) ... but older versions only had BMP And even the JPG support probably isn't one of the best ...Paint Shop Pro 4 supports BMP, CLP, CUT, DIB, EPS, GIF, IFF, IMG, JPG, LBM, MAC, MSP, PBM, PCT, PCX, PGM, PIC, PNG, PPM, PSD, RAS, RAW, RLE, TGA, TIF, WMF and WPG (many of which I never used, but still), and there's other (free) programs you can get that also support that many image formats, or at least image converters if nothing else |
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alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 270/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| It has .gif, .png, any of them you can imagine. At least on XP. I can remember on 95 those options weren't available. | |||
Pegasus Bit Level: 26  Posts: 72/251 EXP: 97188 For next: 5087 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 337 days Last activity: 320 days |
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I've started to use png's when I couldn't upload bmp's to angelfire in march of 2002, but the only time I use gif's are when I need the transparency the most.  Theoretically, Windows XP's MSPaint is better than previous versions of it. Me have question too, can MSPaint from XP be used in a 95/98 environment? if anyone knows, that would be great. |
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KawaiiImoto-e Hammer Brother Level: 49 Posts: 74/1068 EXP: 852917 For next: 30966 Since: 03-15-04 From: In my own little complicated dreamworld Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 4 days |
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| As much as I know, Paint only supports *.jpg and *.gifs if MS Office is correctly installed. (If the Office installation is somehow corrupt, say bye bye to looking at JPEGs or GIFs in Office programms and Paint). | |||
Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 323/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| PAINT's compression sucks. It make pictures looks very bad, at least for JPG. I usually uses another program for it. JPG is good for photos PNG is good for graphics, I found out it's great for screenshots. GIF I don't know what's good with it. It can be animated true... but there is MNG. |
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Xkeeper The required libraries have not been defined. Level: NAN Posts: -4915/-863 EXP: NAN For next: 0 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: -753366 sec. |
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| ???: It, once again, depends on the computer. This computer "has" JPG support as well*. Installing Photoslop 7 adds JPG and GIF support. A few of my best layouts came out of Paint's JPG compression actually. If anyone remembers the giant-ass red layout of doom, that came out of MS Paint entirely. Took long enough too. I'd get something else, but considering how damn long it takes to load something like IE or PAINT for God sakes [1 to 60 seconds my God]... no. Coding for the majority. Oh, and if you haven't noticed, BMPs transfer much faster than most other things. Bouche sent me a 2MB bitmap over IRC once and it transferred at 12 KB/s [on dialup, wow]... In any case, eventually I'm going to get this damn layout conve-- wait, chances are I'm going to make a new one anyway, most likely. The whole NaN thing. Course how beats me. *shot* Ouch. This post is remarkably long for just replying to an image thread *Doesn't work |
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Prier Archangel Administrative Priestess. NUCLEAR SUB WEEEOOOO Level: 119  Posts: 29/8392 EXP: 18790939 For next: 138352 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima Dist. - Tokyo, Japan Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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| 4 TEH ULT1M4T3 KW4L1T333!!11oneone I remember putting a scanned BMP image (Apx. 2 megs or so of a BMP) as my wallpaper on an old 133 and watch it take forever to load. Fun times. And X...that's because a BMP is uncompressed...and since some of the newer 56Ks support compression for objects like that...they go rather fast...I remember hitting around 20 KB/sec on a 56K with one. (edited by Hiryuu on 03-17-04 08:41 AM) |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 333/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| BMP supports compression belive it or not. But it's rarely used. (it's probably sucks comparasion to GIF/JPG/PNG when it comes to making it smaller) And yeah, there is modems that supports compression an ISP. Unfortunatly, I hadn't heard any Swedish ISP that does (mainly becuse they aren't investing in something that is becoming obsolote, Sweden's goverment invest alot of money into broadband ) |
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Prier Archangel Administrative Priestess. NUCLEAR SUB WEEEOOOO Level: 119 Posts: 32/8392 EXP: 18790939 For next: 138352 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima Dist. - Tokyo, Japan Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer BMP supports compression belive it or not. But it's rarely used... If you're talking about difference like 256 color, 16-bit, 24-bit (most used), or anything else like grayscale...then that's the only way I follow you. |
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| There's not much of a point in any of those. I saved a test one as a monochrome bitmap and it came out the same size. Argh. | |||
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KawaiiImoto-e Hammer Brother Level: 49 Posts: 85/1068 EXP: 852917 For next: 30966 Since: 03-15-04 From: In my own little complicated dreamworld Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 4 days |
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Originally posted by Hiryuu Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer BMP supports compression belive it or not. But it's rarely used... If you're talking about difference like 256 color, 16-bit, 24-bit (most used), or anything else like grayscale...then that's the only way I follow you. No, there is really a offical compressed BMP format. |
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Keitaro Iron Knuckle ウラシマ ケイタロウ Level: 54 Posts: 52/1342 EXP: 1201569 For next: 32301 Since: 03-15-04 From: Hinata, Japan Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 days |
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Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer PAINT's compression sucks. It make pictures looks very bad, at least for JPG. I usually uses another program for it. JPG is good for photos PNG is good for graphics, I found out it's great for screenshots. GIF I don't know what's good with it. It can be animated true... but there is MNG. uhg. I always ALWAYS have to save as png with paint, because making it a jpeg or gif graphicaly rapes the image |
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