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NightHawk Bob-Omb Level: 39 Posts: 200/621 EXP: 374743 For next: 30028 Since: 03-26-04 From: Switzerland Since last post: 432 days Last activity: 339 days |
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I've been playing a lot of my older games recently, like Doom, Betrayal at Krondor, and such... and I've been thinking that I tend to enjoy those games more than I enjoy recent games. I can't tell if that's because those were some of the first PC games I played, or if it's because the game play is better than most games I've found lately (I'm specifically excluding graphics, because those aren't very important to me when deciding what games I like to play). Has anyone else noticed something similar? |
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Surlent サーレント Level: 49 Posts: 392/1077 EXP: 863920 For next: 19963 Since: 03-15-04 From: Tower of Lezard Valeth Since last post: 16 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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It cannot be specified generally for _all_ games, but often games are lacking ideas, really going only on graphics (well, you excluded them; but take examples like Enter The Matrix for example ). There still are really nice games like Disgaea (PS2) and others. As for me, concerning RPGs I rather play FFVI VII or IX, because I simply don'T like the newer RPGs anymore; often you don't experience too new ideas, but just warming up old ones. Let's also take many of Nintendo's games on GBA Yes, remakes of Seiken Densetsu 2, Super Mario Bros. and so on still are good, but only are remakes, taking out money for old ideas |
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NightHawk Bob-Omb Level: 39 Posts: 201/621 EXP: 374743 For next: 30028 Since: 03-26-04 From: Switzerland Since last post: 432 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Originally posted by SurlentThat's actually why I excluded them. I *know* the graphics are better for newer games (usually, at least), but I don't really care about graphics, so if that's the only thing that's improved, I prefer to save my money for something else I'd agree with your point about the remakes, except that for me, it's often the only way to play those games, since my ancient NES almost never works. And then there's me living on one continent, and the NES being stored on another... |
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Prier Archangel Administrative Priestess. NUCLEAR SUB WEEEOOOO Level: 119 Posts: 1748/8392 EXP: 18790939 For next: 138352 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima Dist. - Tokyo, Japan Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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Why do you think there's retrogamers out there and why do you think zbattle.net is doing as well as it has been for years now? Of course...there are some really decent games that have stood the test of time over the years...out of any genre. What's nice about that fact is that it's readily available for everyone nowadays at little, if any, cost. So you can indulge in Ms. Pac-Man on your PC or something any time you like. That would be classic gaming...those are the legends that just won't ever die. But some of the other old but not so old stuff like Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 6, Earthworm Jim Series, and then some of the titles you might not see in America like a bunch of anime series ported to games (like GW:ED, Yuu Yuu Hakusho series, DBZ series, Ranma |
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Ed Lantern Ghost Level: 42 Posts: 469/761 EXP: 512715 For next: 8647 Since: 03-16-04 From: Dublin, Ireland Since last post: 215 days Last activity: 25 days |
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Just wondering, is Punch Out! the game that has 'A Winner is you!'? | |||
Dark Sorceress Rope Level: 18 Posts: 76/107 EXP: 27052 For next: 2845 Since: 03-15-04 From: California, USA Since last post: 134 days Last activity: 127 days |
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Originally posted by Edsgravy0 I believe that is Zero Wing As for me, I have been playing through the entire Dragon Warrior series, I beat the first 2, now I'm working on 3 and 4 (considering that 4 is part of a new trilogy I can play it without any relevance to the first 3 games). |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 1160/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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No, it's not Zero Wing. I've played that. It's ending is frickin' wierd, but it's not "A winner is you!" | |||
KATW King Yoshi "If you stare at something long enough, it can be funny." Level: 86 Posts: 1136/3959 EXP: 6087979 For next: 54128 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 7 hours Last activity: 5 hours |
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Remakes can only come close to the classics. All of the "new features" In the super mario advanced series arent that.. "new" theyre just, extras. Id rather play my SNES some days than my PS2 or gamecube... |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 1171/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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I don't even have an SNES v_v | |||
Ed Lantern Ghost Level: 42 Posts: 475/761 EXP: 512715 For next: 8647 Since: 03-16-04 From: Dublin, Ireland Since last post: 215 days Last activity: 25 days |
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I've had my quarterly dose of SNES this week (Mainly playing Secret of Mana and Starwing). I always have these 2 - 4 week periods, every season, where all I play is SNES. It's a great addiction while it lasts. And it ain't over yet | |||
Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 1181/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Anyway, more on topic, I'm of the opinion that good new games are better than good old games. I had more fun with Ocarina of Time than The Legend of Zelda, Viewtiful Joe than any other beat-'em-up EVER, etc. | |||
NightHawk Bob-Omb Level: 39 Posts: 209/621 EXP: 374743 For next: 30028 Since: 03-26-04 From: Switzerland Since last post: 432 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Originally posted by Kyouji CrawI had more fun with Starcraft, Doom, and Betrayal at Krondor than I had with Warcraft 3, Quake 3, or pretty much any RPG made after 2000... so I guess I could say we've had more or less opposite experiences in that regard. UT2004 would be good... but the single player mode sucks (the AI is terrible), and I don't get the chance to play it online very often. |
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Slash Dafter Kodondo Level: 38 Posts: 343/584 EXP: 338934 For next: 31513 Since: 04-04-04 From: E. Millinocket, ME Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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Oh yes. It seems like the only thing game makers care about today is graphics rather than story. I've rented games quite a bit but the last game I bought after renting it was Smackdown: Here Comes the Pain. I've been playing Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Marvel vs Capcom 2, and PSO for Dreamcast lately. | |||
Emptyeye Real American Level: 67 Posts: 406/2273 EXP: 2488421 For next: 104451 Since: 05-24-04 From: I DUNNOOOOOOOO!! Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Originally posted by Ed That would be the venerable "Pro Wrestling" for the NES. My cousin calls it the best wrestling game ever made. |
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Slash Dafter Kodondo Level: 38 Posts: 352/584 EXP: 338934 For next: 31513 Since: 04-04-04 From: E. Millinocket, ME Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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I love the Engrish in old videogames like that. | |||
Emptyeye Real American Level: 67 Posts: 411/2273 EXP: 2488421 For next: 104451 Since: 05-24-04 From: I DUNNOOOOOOOO!! Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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While I don't know if older games are necessarily better than newer ones, I'll point out that I think the last "new" game I beat was Circle of the Moon back in 2001, and I have a bunch of games I've played to the end and never actually beaten that I perhaps should. (Final Fantasy IX and X-2 are on this list). Additionally: I think Ghosts N' Goblins on the NES has to hold the record for ratio of incorrect-to-total text. It's got about 20 words in total, and manages to mess most of them up. |
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Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 1217/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Play Wild Arms II and tell that to me. | |||
RavenX Red Paragoomba Level: 13 Posts: 43/57 EXP: 9533 For next: 734 Since: 06-29-04 From: Rhode Island Since last post: 486 days Last activity: 339 days |
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We've moved away from the older STYLE of games, not to say that either style is better, just to say that it's different. Each style is good and I enjoy them both ^^ | |||
Alastor the Stylish Hey! I made a cool game! It's called "I poisoned half the food, so if you eat you might die!" Have a taco. Level: 114 Posts: 1225/7620 EXP: 16258468 For next: 51099 Since: 03-15-04 From: Oregon, US Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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I'm afraid I don't understand. Older style? | |||
Prier Archangel Administrative Priestess. NUCLEAR SUB WEEEOOOO Level: 119 Posts: 1761/8392 EXP: 18790939 For next: 138352 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima Dist. - Tokyo, Japan Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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Originally posted by Ed NES version, yes. |
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