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| Acmlm's Board - I2 Archive - General Gaming - Pre-ordering games is a shallow scam and I'm pissed |
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The Gift of Gabe Red Paragoomba Level: 13  Posts: 15/51 EXP: 8892 For next: 1375 Since: 03-16-04 From: Albuquerque, NM, USA Since last post: 260 days Last activity: 256 days |
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| As none of you know, I work at Gamestop. I was recently promoted to supervisor, which basically means I do more work, am required to rip more people off, and am more responsible for being an asshole to my former co-workers, for slightly more pay. Cash money! I am blind! Sorry, off the subject. Here's the deal. I, and all the faithful Gamestop/Software Etc. drones around the country, am required to rack up a certain amount of reservations for various titles every day I work. My store's number of reservations must at the minimum work out to about 10% of my daily transactions, or we get in trouble. This is all well and good, or at least it would be if the reservations weren't a bullshit system. Here's how it works. Let's say we get about 50 reservations for a title, we'll say Resident Evil: Outbreak for the sake of argument. The idea behind reserving a game is that it gaurantees that my store will hold you a copy for two days when the game ships, and that we notify you the day before its release. This would be a must for any game you wanted to get your hands on... EXCEPT We ALWAYS receive exactly twice as many games as we have reserves. This means that, given our 50 reservations for RE, we will recieve about 100 copies of the game on the 30th, the day before it ships. So why reserve? No reason whatsoever. Even if we DON'T get enough copies, you can godamned well find one at Mal-Wart, evil though they are. The ONLY case this year in which one might need to shell out for a gaurantee is the allmighty Halo II, for which my pinche store already has 350 reservations. That one we will run out of, as will Mal-Wart. SO, I encourage all of you gamers to call your local gamestop/software etc/EB/funcoland and ask for the number of their District Manager. Call the corporate demon and tell them to start getting real about pre-orders. Don't mention me, or they'll kill my firstborn. Oh god! Timmy! Nooooooooo! |
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Bit-Blade Pixel Artist Level: 34  Posts: 23/445 EXP: 229264 For next: 24387 Since: 03-16-04 Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 7 hours |
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| Gamestop has screwed some of my friends over a few times. Friend of mine wanted a game on release day. There were copies of said game CLEARLY in view, without reservations at all. He asks for a copy, and the guy at the desk says they have none without reservation. Bullshit. So he goes to EB and gets his game. Cheaper, that time. | |||
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Toxic in a sublime state of mind Level: 75  Posts: 201/2857 EXP: 3732709 For next: 94195 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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| I haven't gotten to the point where I needed a game the day it came out. Maybe HL2, but I can't run that, putting it out of the runnings. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 231/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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Ah, but when companies package bonuses with pre-orders...  I've never reserved a game though.  The only place here where I could do that without a hassle is EB. |
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101  Posts: 89/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Ah, interesting. Very interesting.  The last game I reserved was Neverwinter Nights.  I never reserve anymore because whenever I go to Gamestop, they alway have SEVERAl copies of newly released games. Take Ninja Gaiden for example. A friend of mine was all paranoid so he reserved it. I go their the second day it's out and they have about 75 copies behind the counter.  |
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The Gift of Gabe Red Paragoomba Level: 13 Posts: 19/51 EXP: 8892 For next: 1375 Since: 03-16-04 From: Albuquerque, NM, USA Since last post: 260 days Last activity: 256 days |
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| Ah, Colleen brought up a good point. The promos balance out all the retardation of the reserve system. If only we had more of them!! For instance, I pre-ordered RE: Outbreak despite my lack of a PS2 because we were giving away a package with a metal canteen with a biohazard symbol on it and a pimp surgical mask!!! It was sweet. I unfortunately missed out on the plush cows we were giving with harvest moon reservations. Damn it! Now what will my dog chew on?! | |||
Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 292/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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| I bought Ruby and sapphire the day after it was released and an GBA SP. (my sister got sapphire, i'm not that type who buys two games of the same game ) And the same thing for Simcity 4, but I had hard time finding an copy first. Then I found one. Preordered Zelda the wind waker bonus disc. The game and the bonus disc is in the same cover so they can't them sepratly. I saw the game with the bonus disc for an month or two in the shops... (but then I got the game three days to early when I preordered. Which made me happy )(edited by Kitten Yiffer on 03-16-04 04:46 PM) |
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The Gift of Gabe Red Paragoomba Level: 13 Posts: 20/51 EXP: 8892 For next: 1375 Since: 03-16-04 From: Albuquerque, NM, USA Since last post: 260 days Last activity: 256 days |
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| Yeah, that happens sometimes. Thanks to good-natured peeps like myself Fight the corporate death machine! Until you get fired! |
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Kwan Doesn't have a valid sized userpic. ||bass will be pissed :(((((((( Level: 50  Posts: 109/1137 EXP: 937111 For next: 10206 Since: 03-15-04 From: Durkadurkastan! Since last post: 22 days Last activity: 2 days |
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| I don't see how it's as bad as you make it. If interest in a game grows, then the store makes for more orders, how is it that bad? | |||
alte Hexe Star Mario I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night Alive as you and me "But Joe you're ten years dead!" "I never died" said he "I never died!" said he Level: 99  Posts: 236/5458 EXP: 9854489 For next: 145511 Since: 03-15-04 From: ... Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Originally posted by Legion Ah, interesting. Very interesting. The last game I reserved was Neverwinter Nights. I never reserve anymore because whenever I go to Gamestop, they alway have SEVERAl copies of newly released games. Take Ninja Gaiden for example. A friend of mine was all paranoid so he reserved it. I go their the second day it's out and they have about 75 copies behind the counter. Worse in Canada. Gamestore employees at the local EB are forced to tell you that they are totally maxed out for reservations in an attempt to get you to reserve it  CHEAP ASSES! |
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Abnormal Freak Blackwater tea Level: 31  Posts: 13/364 EXP: 169629 For next: 15734 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 2 min. |
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| I reserved Castlevania: Lament of Innocence at EB for the music CD that came with it. Those bonuses are a real nifty catch. Pre-ordering Zelda: Wind Waker gave me the bonus disc. Cool stuff like that. | |||
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 235/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| That quota shouldn't be hard to reach with the bonuses and all that. Then again, there's some games that, if I worked at one of those stores and someone reserved one of them, well... I'd look at them funny. |
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Toxic in a sublime state of mind Level: 75 Posts: 208/2857 EXP: 3732709 For next: 94195 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 3 days Last activity: 8 hours |
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| Even if they do come with neat things, I dunno if it's worth it. At one paticular store, all preordering is, is you give them X dollars, and upon purchase, they take that out of the cost. That would work for me, but I just haven't had the opportunity. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 240/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Depends on the game. That's how most games work, but if you get a bonus... then you have to pre-order. They're doing that with lots of PC games now - giving away bonus game files/demos/etc. with a reservation. |
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Old Zem Level: 27 Posts: 49/260 EXP: 102369 For next: 13790 Since: 03-16-04 Since last post: 213 days Last activity: 203 days |
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| In Gamestop the money used for preordering works as store credit, so you can transfer it to another preorder. Cheap way to get free bonuses. | |||
Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81  Posts: 202/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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| Multiple times at multiple Gamestop's Employee's have been complete moron's to me. One time I called in "Do you guys have Final Fantasy III for Snes?" The response. "I dunno, your going to have to come in and look for yourself." That's seriously awesome customer service. And my Gamestop's work like you described Toxic, I've had Halo 2 reserved for months with a 5 dollar payment, when I go in I should only have to pay 45$. |
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Joachim Mole Level: 30  Posts: 100/358 EXP: 165561 For next: 308 Since: 03-15-04 From: Neo Kobe Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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Originally posted by Xeogred Multiple times at multiple Gamestop's Employee's have been complete moron's to me. One time I called in "Do you guys have Final Fantasy III for Snes?" The response. "I dunno, your going to have to come in and look for yourself." That's seriously awesome customer service. And my Gamestop's work like you described Toxic, I've had Halo 2 reserved for months with a 5 dollar payment, when I go in I should only have to pay 45$. Complain to the manager and they'll get their asses chewed out. |
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Xeolord - B l u e s - Power Metal > All Level: 81 Posts: 204/3418 EXP: 4884196 For next: 108653 Since: 03-15-04 From: Yeah Since last post: 15 hours Last activity: 15 hours |
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| Actually, I kind of know the manager. (I think it may be him) Some older guy, 40's maybe who collects FF games. I would sometimes just talk a bit about FF games with him, but then again when there's younger people working there more around my age, all they talk about is drugs.  |
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Luigi Red Koopa Level: 19 Posts: 25/126 EXP: 34570 For next: 1207 Since: 03-15-04 From: Friday the 13th Since last post: 521 days Last activity: 96 days |
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| Ah... I haven't preordered in a long time. Although, I'll probably have to for Halo II. Preordering, in my opinion, isn't necessary, unless the game/whatever is very popular and will get sold out in 5 seconds after it is released, | |||
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Legion banning people for no reason sure is fun Level: 101 Posts: 93/5657 EXP: 10399737 For next: 317938 Since: 03-15-04 From: The Crossroads is under attack! Since last post: 5 days Last activity: 5 days |
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Originally posted by Zem In Gamestop the money used for preordering works as store credit, so you can transfer it to another preorder. Cheap way to get free bonuses. .... You know.... I hadn't even thought of doing that before.  muahahaha >=D |
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