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drjayphd Beamos What's that spell? pimp! Level: 56  Posts: 393/1477 EXP: 1387410 For next: 10766 Since: 03-15-04 From: CT Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| It doesn't, really, but it renders everything ELSE that's running unusable (or at least makes it stop responding). What happened? Here we go. I've been using Shareaza to download MAME ROM sets. It's too much of a pain in the ass to direct download, so I found a site with hashes for everything. (Mind you, I have to use MSN to use P2P programs, as my school dialup blocks them and uses bandwidth shaping. This is important.) Well, last night, my comp got really slow and unstable. Fired up MaxMem, because I thought I was running out of memory. Sure enough, I was. Did an aggressive clear, and it was okay for a few seconds, then started climbing again. Cracked open the task manager, and found out that vsmon.exe's taking up a LOT of memory. Google said it's a memory leak in Zone Alarm, or someone's trying to shit-hammer my comp with UDP... something. It's not spyware on my side (which they said it's most likely) because I'm clean. Still, I switched from Mozilla to Firefox .9, because I thought it'd use less memory, and I only needed the browser component anyway. Finally just disconnected, unplugged the phone line, plugged it in again, and switched connections. Nothing abnormal.  (The above tangent was because I thought there MAY be a connection.) So tonight, try again. This time, Shareaza crashes several times, after running for about a minute or two. Then it stays open... and for seemingly no reason, EVERYTHING that's running (Shareaza, Firefox, Trillian Pro) stops responding. Again, I do NOT have this problem on my school connection, only through MSN. Task Manager, end the relevant processes. Except there's two instances of Firefox and Shareaza listed, although only one of each is open. Anyway, I end them... and they don't come off the list. Finally, the WINDOWS for those apps disappear, but they're still listed in the task manager. I reboot and try it again. Once again, being connected to MSN, running Firefox 0.9, and Shareaza 1.8.something conflicts, so I send Shareaza packing and upgrade to 2.0.0.0. And AGAIN it seems to take my comp down for NO REASON. What exactly can I do? The only reason I've been sticking with Shareaza is I have several nearly-complete downloads and it's the one eDonkey client that connects on a regular basis (and when it works, it's the fastest). Any ideas? I would try switching connections but MSN's the only one I can use to download using any P2P software. |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 838/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| hmm...it seems that the software MSN uses (you have to use proprietary software, right?) doesn't like Shareaza? I really do not think it is any thing else as XP is the most stable OS of Windows right now (Win2k falls a little short). Anyways, as for alternative connections, ever tried juno? Using a work around, you can use juno without its propreitary software. However, for several months now, you are stuck at 10 hours/month. |
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drjayphd Beamos What's that spell? pimp! Level: 56 Posts: 394/1477 EXP: 1387410 For next: 10766 Since: 03-15-04 From: CT Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Don't really want to use ANOTHER ISP, though... the thing is this only started two days ago. And yes, I do have to use proprietary software to connect (but not to do anything else, mercifully) to MSN. I'll probably try another BT client. I'm just more concerned with the fact that I'll end the processes for the problem programs and they won't come off the Task Manager list (not the Applications tab, but Processes). |
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neotransotaku Baby Mario 戻れたら、 誰も気が付く Level: 87 Posts: 861/4016 EXP: 6220548 For next: 172226 Since: 03-15-04 From: Outside of Time/Space Since last post: 11 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| two days ago? i don't think it would happen at random...can you think of anything you did two days ago that would change the behavior of your computer? what you did there may just be the culprit... | |||
Prier Archangel Administrative Priestess. NUCLEAR SUB WEEEOOOO Level: 119  Posts: 1449/8392 EXP: 18790939 For next: 138352 Since: 03-15-04 From: Nerima Dist. - Tokyo, Japan Since last post: 1 day Last activity: 1 day |
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| Are you sure it isn't just the attempt to use P2P in general? If you want something similar to Shareaza (I mean I know this service actually uses Shareaza in it) you should try something like EMule and see if that doesn't help fix the problem. If THAT isn't it...and with the vsmon comment (currently mine's at 6,788K usage if that helps)...I would wonder if Shareaza isn't conflicting with your firewall. Maybe the program isn't set up in ZoneAlarm to run and that could be locking your system up, but I wouldn't know why. Additionally, there could be a virus or other type of stupid program that's attempting to drill a hole in your firewall, and coincidentally lock up your system on it's attempt. I think I posted about a new medium risk one in General a week or so ago that attempts to drill your firewall and antivirus software if it's run, but it's e-mail...so I doubt seriously you got it. I'm not really sure, but try that and try doing a system scan with your anti-virus software (hopefully up-to-date) and see what you find...if nothing, hey...at least you tried. Like I said, I'm not really sure myself. (edited by Hiryuu on 06-23-04 03:29 PM) |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 1103/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Well, seeing how I don't have any vsmon.exe running, I'll assume it's part of a program you've installed. Try reinstalling or just removing it. You might also consider trying to find a way to work around the blocks on the school connection. (School dialup, wtf?) | |||
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drjayphd Beamos What's that spell? pimp! Level: 56 Posts: 396/1477 EXP: 1387410 For next: 10766 Since: 03-15-04 From: CT Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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Remote access, HH. It's free and I can't argue with THAT right now.  Even though I shoulda lost it almost a year ago... graduated last MAY.I checked and vsmon.exe is part of Zone Alarm. And the IT people at my alma mater know more about it than I, so I doubt I'll be able to get around them. |
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Elric Chasupa  Currently Playing: You Like A Lute. Level: 40 Posts: 236/687 EXP: 440016 For next: 1293 Since: 03-15-04 From: Melniboné Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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| Why not try Usenet instead of P2P? Of course, that's provided that MSN offers Usenet... Personally, I abhore P2P programs...  Usenet all the way, baby!  |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 2237/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| MSN should offer Usenet access, sure. No problem. But you need: 1) A good NNTP server. 2) Something other than Outlook Express. |
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drjayphd Beamos What's that spell? pimp! Level: 56 Posts: 400/1477 EXP: 1387410 For next: 10766 Since: 03-15-04 From: CT Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Well, "something better tha OE" isn't a problem... (patpats his copy of Office XP) And Usenet would solve all of life's problems if I wasn't on dial-up. Maybe once I move out and get broadband.  |
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Elric Chasupa Currently Playing: You Like A Lute. Level: 40 Posts: 240/687 EXP: 440016 For next: 1293 Since: 03-15-04 From: Melniboné Since last post: 6 hours Last activity: 6 hours |
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| I'm on dial-up too, so I know how bad Usenet is with that. Personally, I use GrabIt! for my Usenet stuff. Granted, the current version doesn't support posting of binaries, but that wasn't part of it's original purpose. Ilan will probably add that at a later date. He's already added XPAT & NZB to the latest (private) beta, whatever those are. |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 2251/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| NZB are newzBin files and I know they can be used to d/l binaries but have no idea how they work. XPAT is basically a way of searching a group for certain headers without downloading them all. |
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