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Posted on 06-22-04 11:53 PM Link | Quote
okay maybe the thread title has bad word choice but...

I've been wondering how some terms came to be in sports. For example, what does inning derive from in baseball? is it from the fact that a team is "in" at bat or something? how about bowling three strikes gets you a turkey?

anyways, if anyone knows why things are called this way, please post or if you have any of your own you have noticed
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Posted on 06-23-04 09:10 AM Link | Quote
Neo, yes, "inning" is as you surmise. The word comes from cricket, when one team would "go in" or "have its innings" whle the other team would go out in the field. I think cricketers had been using the word since the 1700s.

One word I always have trouble explaining to non-baseball buffs is "strike" -- it refers to the batter striking at the ball, of course, and doesn't imply whether he actually hits it or not. Since we usually use the word "strike" to mean actually hitting something, it's confusing.
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Posted on 06-23-04 09:46 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Heian-794
Neo, yes, "inning" is as you surmise. The word comes from cricket, when one team would "go in" or "have its innings" whle the other team would go out in the field. I think cricketers had been using the word since the 1700s.

One word I always have trouble explaining to non-baseball buffs is "strike" -- it refers to the batter striking at the ball, of course, and doesn't imply whether he actually hits it or not. Since we usually use the word "strike" to mean actually hitting something, it's confusing.


Not only that, but there's called strikes and swings and misses being dubbed strikes as well... when the batter didn't touch the ball in either case.

One thing that it's nice to see announcers getting straight is the ground-rule double. "Ground rule" kind of implies that it's not always the case in every park, like with the catwalks in Tampa Bay and the ivy in Wrigley. But a fair ball bouncing off the ground and into the stands is always a double, everywhere. So I think it was Jon Miller who started to call it an automatic double.
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Of course, you could argue that since a fair ball bouncing into the stands is a double in all of baseball, it's not a "ground rule" but rather a baseball rule, and that things like balls hitting catwalks and other things peculiar to the grounds that the game's being played in really are "ground rules". But wasn't it the case in the past that balls bouncing into the stands were sometimes doubles and sometimes home runs, depending on how far the wall was from home plate? I know that in Chicago in 1884, they had a wall so short that anything going over it was a double, not a homer. And in more recent times batters got homers on what would now be a typical automatic double.

But in any case... Jon Miller really is a good announcer who thinks about the game. I mis listening to him.
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Posted on 06-23-04 01:07 PM Link | Quote
The names of bowling deliveries has always interested me, I wonder if they all have their own story behind them:

- Leg Break
- Off Break
- Toppie
- Zooter
- Flipper
- Slider
- Googly/Wrong 'Un/Other one
- And of course, the famous ' Doosra' which I know means 'Other one' in Urdu.
- Yorker
- Bouncer (kinda obviously)
- Leg cutter
- Off Cutter

Plus there's heaps more - I mean, Shane Warne has about 13 deliveries or something crazy just to himself.

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Wrong'un, does "Yorker" come from Yorkshire? I'm interested in cricket but have never had the chance to play.
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