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Posted on 07-26-04 11:38 AM Link | Quote
I just put the values into a matrix and solved it...it wasn't that bad to get row-reduced echelon form...
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Posted on 07-26-04 08:03 PM Link | Quote
I ended up with NSNick's answer, so the point is his.

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Question 64 (1 point)-

Find all factors of this number:

2446880


(edited by JJ64 on 07-26-04 11:04 AM)
(edited by JJ64 on 07-27-04 11:17 AM)
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Posted on 07-26-04 09:34 PM Link | Quote
There aren't many, a multiple is a number that can be divided by the given number, and the only one of that which yeilds a whole number is zero (0/2446880 = 0). Even one doesn't.

So for answers, I got zero.

Factors, however, are another story. You can divide this thing by one, two, four, five, and eight without getting a single remainder. But that's not multiples, so I'm just covering bases...
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Posted on 07-26-04 10:59 PM Link | Quote
Surely JJ meant to ask for factors!

But with another interpretation, he could be asking for the number multiplied by all single digits:

0 0
1 2446880
2 4893760
3 7340640
4 9787520
5 12234400
6 14681280
7 17128160
8 19575040
9 22021920
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Posted on 07-26-04 11:42 PM Link | Quote
Well while we're going for random interpretations, he might be asking what happens when we multiply the single digits of the number together:

2x4 = 8
2x6=12
2x8=16
2x0=0
4x6=24
4x8=32
4x0=0
6x8=48
6x0=0
8x0=0

That's some odd logic there.

There's also multiplying all the single digits of the number together, to get 2x4x4x6x8x8x0 = 0! Hehe.
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Posted on 07-27-04 08:17 PM Link | Quote
I should really pay more attention to that, I meant factors.

I'll fix it now, then.
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Posted on 07-27-04 09:02 PM Link | Quote
Well, the prime factorization of this 2466880 is 25 x 5 x 41 x 373.

Which would mean that the following numbers would be factors (hope I didn't miss any):

2 (2 x 1223440)
4 (4 x 611720)
5 (5 x 489376)
8 (8 x 305860)
10 (10 x 244688)
16 (16 x 152930)
20 (20 x 122344)
32 (32 x 76465)
40 (40 x 61172)
41 (41 x 59680)
80 (80 x 30586)
82 (82 x 29840)
160 (160 x 15293)
164 (164 x 14920)
205 (205 x 11936)
328 (328 x 7460)
373 (373 x 6560)
410 (410 x 5968)
656 (656 x 3730)
746 (746 x 3280)
820 (820 x 2984)
1312 (1312 x 1865)
1492 (1492 x 1640)

And then all the numbers on the right sides of those multiplication signs above.
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Posted on 07-28-04 12:47 AM Link | Quote
Yes but then you're just throwing more primes into it and I just stayed awake for 25 hours what the hell am I doing trying to 1-up Heian?

Meh, we haven't even thought about learning Prime Factorization in my classes yet.
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Posted on 07-28-04 02:26 AM Link | Quote
Another point for Heian-794...

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Another factorization.

Question 65 (1 point)-

Find all factors of this number:

1234567890
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Posted on 07-28-04 03:05 AM Link | Quote
I beleive they are:

2 and 617283945
3 and 411522630
5 and 246913578
6 and 205761315
9 and 137174210
10 and 123456789
15 and 82304526
18 and 68587105
30 and 41152263
45 and 27434842
90 and 13717421
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Posted on 07-28-04 03:21 AM Link | Quote
NSNick gets the point.

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Composite solids!

Question 66 (1 point)-

Find the area of a hemisphere perched on a cylinder, and another hemisphere attached to the other side, if the height for the cylinder is twice the number of solids in the composite solid, and the radius is twice the height of the cylinder.
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Posted on 07-28-04 03:52 AM Link | Quote
Hieght = 6, radius = 12, This we just take the area of a sphere with radius 12 and add it to the height of a cylinder with radius 12 and height 6.

4/3(pi)x12^3 = 7238.229, + (pix36x12) = 8595.3975 units^3.
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Posted on 07-28-04 07:36 AM Link | Quote
Grey gets the point...

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Question 67 (1 point)-

It is sunny, if and only if the sun is out.

Find the initial conditional statement, converse, inverse, and contrapositive.
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Posted on 07-28-04 07:55 AM Link | Quote
Yay, another conditional statement.

IFF makes these answers kinda funky, but they're still along the same lines.

ICS: It is sunny IFF the sun is out.
Converse: The sun is out if and only if it is sunny.
Inverse: It is not sunny if and only if the sun is not out.
Contrapositive: The sun is not out if and only if it is not sunny.

I think that's how it should work. If it doesn't, then I've placed the IFFs wrong.
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Posted on 07-28-04 07:10 PM Link | Quote
Grey with another point...

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Question 68 (1 point)-

Solve the system of equations:

|3x+43y|=162
x=|7y|
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Posted on 07-28-04 08:11 PM Link | Quote
You guys are piling up the points while I'm asleep!

No matter, my rally continues with the following:


If x=|7y|, then the first equation is

|21y+43y|=162 (not |-21y+43y|=162 since 3x must be positive)

Thus |64y|=162 is valid, meaning that:

y can equal 81/32, -81/32.
x has to be positive and can therefore equal only 567/32 and not its negative.

And NSNick, aren't you missing a whole bunch of 2- and 3-digit factors in that number?





(edited by Heian-794 on 07-28-04 11:13 AM)
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Posted on 07-28-04 11:28 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Heian-794
You guys are piling up the points while I'm asleep!



Whenever I get back here, there are around 3 more questions posed and answered... you guys must be doing this in the morning, I'm not up 'till the afternoon!
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Posted on 07-29-04 12:19 AM Link | Quote
My secret is to wake up early and go to bed late, then nap during the day while JJ's out having the life that none of us have.
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Posted on 07-29-04 12:40 AM Link | Quote
I can't nap, nor can I wake up early. JJ is 1 tz behind us, so he is up uber early, feeding us math problems. Yeah, we're nerds.
                                     ^
                                     not!


(edited by Gb boy on 07-28-04 03:44 PM)
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Posted on 07-29-04 02:36 AM Link | Quote
I have a late-night job, so I'm usually awake from about 2 PM to 6 AM Japanese time, which is 13 hours ahead of the East Coast in the summer -- I guess that would be 1 AM to 5 PM ET. This works against me because it seems like JJ posts his puff questions while I sleep, and then the tough ones after he's been up for a few hours to think about it!
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