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NightHawk Bob-Omb Level: 39  Posts: 128/621 EXP: 374743 For next: 30028 Since: 03-26-04 From: Switzerland Since last post: 432 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Because of some hardware that finally arrived (I ordered it about a month ago  ).I think I'll be able to start work on it early next week. Anyway, since I don't think anyone's read the update in the other thread about this (I had to edit it into a post, since I have the last post in that thread, so it doesn't show up as having anything new), I'll use this post to let everyone know that I can't port it to the Saturn.... I was trying to do a "Hello World" demo, and while in the process of doing that, found out that the Saturn doesn't have any good emulators... they're still very buggy, and none of them have complete emulation of anything except the main processors.... So, it'll be back to the Genesis I guess... at least I found a demo ROM for it that lets me experiment with the FM chip in "real time", to hear the effects of various things... so, that'll at least help get rid of the last problem I had with the Genesis. |
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Sokarhacd Ball and Chain Trooper Resistance is Futile You Will Be Assimilated Hab SoSlI' Quch Level: 61  Posts: 252/1757 EXP: 1799888 For next: 76708 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 6 days Last activity: 4 hours |
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| well, i guess starting it later is better then not starting it at all, and oh well about the saturn, genesis will probably work really good too....good luck | |||
Ed Lantern Ghost Level: 42  Posts: 335/761 EXP: 512715 For next: 8647 Since: 03-16-04 From: Dublin, Ireland Since last post: 215 days Last activity: 25 days |
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| I'm beginning to take an interest in this (Even though I didn't like Final Fantasy 1) So yeah, good luck  |
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 2131/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Ya know, you COULD just make a brand new FF type game on the genesis... after all, I can't remember an RPG I liked on that system, and uh... I didn't like FF1 too much truthfully  |
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Emptyeye Real American Level: 67 Posts: 30/2273 EXP: 2488421 For next: 104451 Since: 05-24-04 From: I DUNNOOOOOOOO!! Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| If the idea to include all three NES games--particularly 3--is still in, that would rock. I have FFOrigins for PS1, so my motivation to play FF1 and 2 on a ROM is..limited, to say the least. | |||
Weasel Missionary in PeruLevel: 34  Posts: 347/454 EXP: 236444 For next: 17207 Since: 03-15-04 From: Washington Since last post: 467 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| Why exactly are you making a FF1 port? There's already one for the NES, PSone, Wonderswan Color, and a new one for the GBA in the future. Plus, Disch was making one a while ago as well. |
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Dish Spiny Level: 38 Posts: 68/596 EXP: 355646 For next: 14801 Since: 03-15-04 From: Disch Since last post: 18 days Last activity: 18 days |
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Mine wasn't a port... it was a tribute  . I intended on making the game branch into it's own game (more FF4 style) once you go into the past. But I don't think I'll ever pick that project up again =\ |
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Colleen Administrator Level: 136 Posts: 1614/11302 EXP: 29369328 For next: 727587 Since: 03-15-04 From: LaSalle, Quebec, Canada Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Weasel - Well, if nothing else it's good programming experience, right? If it progresses, it'll be interesting if nothing else. |
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NightHawk Bob-Omb Level: 39 Posts: 129/621 EXP: 374743 For next: 30028 Since: 03-26-04 From: Switzerland Since last post: 432 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Originally posted by KefkaHey hey hey!!! Don't forget the Phantasy Star series!! Best console RPG I've ever played, IMO, was Phantasy Star IV on the Genesis. And as for making an "FF-like" RPG... sure, I could do that too, but I don't have a good plot ready, among other things Emptyeye: Yes, I'll still try to include all 3 games... if I can't include all 3 though, I'll drop FF2 first, since it was my least favorite of the series, and I don't even know where the map data is in the ROM (I plan on ripping that out pretty much "as-is" for each game, since I don't feel like remaking the maps from scratch). Weasel: Well, it kinda progressed out of the hack I wanted to make... I got fed up with some things involved in that (6502 assembler, multiple inconsistent ways of doing identical things, etc.), and so... I'm porting it, and at the same time, I'll be adding all the features I was going to put in my hack |
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Imajin Buster Beetle Level: 34  Posts: 287/452 EXP: 234863 For next: 18788 Since: 03-15-04 From: Kingdom of Zeal Since last post: 39 days Last activity: 53 days |
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| I liked Phantasy Star II better than IV.. The games used very different stat engines, though... How are going to compensate for that? Especially FF2j (Unless you make FF2j use the FF1 stat progression engine, which would be cool) |
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NightHawk Bob-Omb Level: 39 Posts: 130/621 EXP: 374743 For next: 30028 Since: 03-26-04 From: Switzerland Since last post: 432 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Originally posted by ImajinPhantasy Star II was great... but I found Phantasy Star IV first, and PS II's graphics weren't good enough for me after seeing PSIV... I still like it though. Most likely with scripts. I'll probably code a (very) simplified scripting language; probably along the lines of BASIC, to make it easy to code an "assembler" (I use the term "assembler" because there would be a 1:1 relationship between the source document and the codes it would output). Then those scripts would be responsible for handling stats... and even monster AI could be handled with them if I wanted to (it's not like monster AI is very complex in these games, lol). And I'll be bringing the stat engine in FF1 up to FF3's level, so that'll reduce the number of scripts I'd need, at least, lol.  |
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 2195/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Meh, Phantasy Star series is ok. I still like a lot of SNES RPGs more than Phantasy Star series, but I guess that PS II and IV WERE good and classic. But not as good as CT and FFVI |
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NightHawk Bob-Omb Level: 39 Posts: 132/621 EXP: 374743 For next: 30028 Since: 03-26-04 From: Switzerland Since last post: 432 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Originally posted by KefkaWhat's CT? And PSIV is SO much better than FFVI! But, I would say that, since as I said... it's my favorite console RPG Anyway, the computer upgrade is done... I've got a 160GB hard disk now (200GB total  ), and my computer's quieter when I'm doing anything intensive (I replaced the cooler on my processor).So... after I finish re-installing all of my stuff (and I have a lot), I'll be able to get started. |
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 2202/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| To answer your question, CT is that game with the red haired kid who is constantly oppressed with hugging and kisses from a tomboy princess and is good friends with a geekish girl that can repair robots from the post-apocalyptic future that even has a pink robot with a bow in the factory remains, and she and the repaired robot are apparently robot lovers and then you go way back in time when dinosaurs were apparently smarter than humans and then you beat up the cause of all this and run into a guy from the distant past who goes to his original time which was before A.D. and then dresses up as some sage guy and ruins his past and then still fails to whoop ass so you have to do it for him and then you can beat this one level 3 times and its the level before when you HAVE to face the final guy and then you end up kicking ass some more and win and you find out everyone is in your bloodline the end! Understand? EDIT: Spoiler: Chrono Trigger, duh. (edited by Kefka on 05-28-04 04:19 PM) |
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NightHawk Bob-Omb Level: 39 Posts: 134/621 EXP: 374743 For next: 30028 Since: 03-26-04 From: Switzerland Since last post: 432 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Originally posted by KefkaActually, no I didn't, until you edited that spoiler in.  And now that I know what you were talking about... never played it, so it's kinda tough for me to compare it to another game |
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Felix Nipper Plant Level: 33 Posts: 379/422 EXP: 208347 For next: 20832 Since: 04-03-04 From: Canada Since last post: 224 days Last activity: 6 days |
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Originally posted by NightHawk Okay, firstly, you must play this game as soon as you get some free time. I really doubt you'll regret it if you like RPGs. Second, Kefka definately should have put the title out in the open and the spoi;er in the tags, but I guess that's all in the hillarity of it. And third, of all the systems, you're using Sega Saturn? Might I ask why? (edited by Felix on 05-30-04 03:20 AM) |
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Emptyeye Real American Level: 67 Posts: 70/2273 EXP: 2488421 For next: 104451 Since: 05-24-04 From: I DUNNOOOOOOOO!! Since last post: 9 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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| Here's a delightfully random question: You seem to be writing the engine and (I would presume, I may be wrong) design tools for this yourself. Why not just make it PC-based? It would also eliminate the problem with the music programming. Of course, there's probably something I'm missing here. |
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NightHawk Bob-Omb Level: 39 Posts: 138/621 EXP: 374743 For next: 30028 Since: 03-26-04 From: Switzerland Since last post: 432 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Originally posted by FelixActually, no, I'm using the Genesis now. As for why... it's the most widely emulated console, with the most documentation, that I'm interested in coding for... every other emulated console was disqualified for at least one reason (lack of GOOD emulators, lack of docs, Square's already released FF's on that console, etc.). So... basically, it's what was left after everything else was eliminated as an option. *shrugs* Originally posted by EmptyeyeWell, at the time I made the decision, Disch had that FF Tribute thing going... I thought that a PC port would be redundant... if he's serious about not picking it up again... I could look into it, if people wanted.... *shrugs* |
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Darth Coby Vire Dacht je nou echt dat het over was? Dacht je nou echt dat ik gebroken was? Nee toch? Nou kijk eens goed op uit je ogen gast. zonder clic heb je geen kloten tjap... bitch Level: 55  Posts: 576/1371 EXP: 1240774 For next: 73415 Since: 03-15-04 From: Belgium Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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| Now I want to play CT, I never completed it. :o By God.. I should, shouldn't I? You pretty much spoiled everything though. |
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