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mikepjr Ninji Level: 26  Posts: 72/242 EXP: 92006 For next: 10269 Since: 03-15-04 From: houston texas Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 1 hour |
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| I have a good idea for a name but........ppl will just make fun of it or me and i dont want that. (edited by mikepjr on 05-27-04 09:15 PM) |
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Atma X Bandit Level: 43  Posts: 216/801 EXP: 553639 For next: 11407 Since: 03-16-04 From: Derrière vous!!! Since last post: 43 days Last activity: 14 days |
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Go ahead and say it,... anyway, most of the other ones that everyone else came up with sucked  . Making up good names isn't always as easy as it seems. |
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Weasel Missionary in PeruLevel: 34  Posts: 354/454 EXP: 236444 For next: 17207 Since: 03-15-04 From: Washington Since last post: 467 days Last activity: 339 days |
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If it's some weird, off-the-wall name, then it'll probably be good  |
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Atma X Bandit Level: 43 Posts: 217/801 EXP: 553639 For next: 11407 Since: 03-16-04 From: Derrière vous!!! Since last post: 43 days Last activity: 14 days |
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Originally posted by WeaselOriginally posted by Atma XOriginally posted by Kefka |
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Cellar Dweller Flurry !!! Level: 27  Posts: 54/269 EXP: 107817 For next: 8342 Since: 03-15-04 From: Arkansas Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 34 min. |
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| I believe it is good to release, with source code, early and often. This does not just apply to Yoshi Magic but to Lunar Magic and AcmlmBoard. Both of those are choking on thier own secrecy, and poorly reasoned justifications have been given(mostly by people not involved with the creation of those programs). Don't let your project be next. Have an open beta, provide source starting during beta, and accept advice and patches early on. Doing so may sound strange or bad to some, but it will improve the chance of success. Don't call it Island Dozer. That name is taken. |
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knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 305/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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| wtf WTF Cellar, this is the same thing as saying "omg giev me teh sorce so i cna use oit". Release the source is acceptable, but only if the project die. (edited by knuck on 05-28-04 05:51 AM) |
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Atma X Bandit Level: 43 Posts: 218/801 EXP: 553639 For next: 11407 Since: 03-16-04 From: Derrière vous!!! Since last post: 43 days Last activity: 14 days |
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Read over your posts and fix your mistakes. It gets annoying,... sorry I'm not trying to be an ass, but it makes your posts a little harder to read at a glance  |
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mikepjr Ninji Level: 26 Posts: 73/242 EXP: 92006 For next: 10269 Since: 03-15-04 From: houston texas Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 1 hour |
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| Well i thought that maybe something like PRESTO or PRESTO MAGIC. | |||
Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 1960/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Personally if I was working on a editor, I would do the GUI first. I tend to do that with every program I make... Originally posted by knuckThen you never heard about the open-source projects. Good thing about releasing the source is that you get more help. Bad thing is that somebody can stole the source and claim it as own. (probably wouldn't happen thought )And it's up to the author if he wants to release it or not.  (edited by Kitten Yiffer on 05-28-04 02:08 AM) |
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Cellar Dweller Flurry !!! Level: 27 Posts: 57/269 EXP: 107817 For next: 8342 Since: 03-15-04 From: Arkansas Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 34 min. |
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Originally posted by knuck Your paraphrase of my post resembles a strawman attack. Taken literally it is not true, because I don't use VB or want to. I have already created a number of my own YI decoding functions using the information posted at this board. Plus, I look over my posts for spelling errors before submitting them. I believe the the source should be released for use, but no (honest) person would have any reason to take and not give back. Precautions, such as an appropriate license and accepting patches, can discourage forking. |
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Parasyte Bullet Bill Level: 35  Posts: 17/514 EXP: 267348 For next: 12588 Since: 05-25-04 Since last post: 104 days Last activity: 32 days |
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Originally posted by Kitten Yiffer And I guess you've never heard of source code licenses such as GPL. They give you protection from would-be code thieves. Protection which could even stand up in court, if one were to take it to that level. |
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mikepjr Ninji Level: 26 Posts: 74/242 EXP: 92006 For next: 10269 Since: 03-15-04 From: houston texas Since last post: 4 days Last activity: 1 hour |
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| I wish you guys would get over this source code thing and be happy that someone is trying thier very best to even make a level aditor for YI. (edited by mikepjr on 05-28-04 02:47 AM) |
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Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 1964/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Originally posted by ParasyteOh yes how could I forget about GPL... Found this page about GPL. Intresting read actually, but remember gnu.org is almost taking things abit... religious. Nothing wrong with that but... heh |
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FuSoYa Defender of Relm Level: 26  Posts: 63/255 EXP: 99529 For next: 2746 Since: 03-15-04 From: Moon Since last post: 7 days Last activity: 7 hours |
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Originally posted by Cellar Dweller Silly... it doesn't choke on secrecy, it thrives on it! At least, I think that's what it was trying to tell me. I typed in the question to Lunar Magic, but all it did is bring up some hidden feature I don't really remember putting in. *shrugs*  |
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The Kins Kodondo Level: 38  Posts: 130/595 EXP: 354733 For next: 15714 Since: 03-15-04 From: Melbourne, VIC, Australia Since last post: 2 days Last activity: 9 hours |
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| LM's mind is flowing, Fu... Daisy, DAAAIIIIIIISYYYYY... |
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knuck Hinox Banned until 19-58-5815: trolling, flaming, spamming, being a general fucktard... Level: 62 Posts: 309/1818 EXP: 1894574 For next: 90112 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 9 hours |
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| Yeah right, a GPL is soo going to stop people form using it... Kitten Yiffer, the fact that i don't like open-source projects, doesn't means i don't know them. Cellar: So you bash me because of a "teh"? Right after i post i always check if it has any errors, and then, if needed, i edit the post. But i have something called life, and it's more important than a message board. "Plus, I look over my posts for spelling errors before submitting them." So, what does this has to do with source codes? |
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Parasyte Bullet Bill Level: 35 Posts: 18/514 EXP: 267348 For next: 12588 Since: 05-25-04 Since last post: 104 days Last activity: 32 days |
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| You seem a bit too paranoid and cynical to be a programmer. (edited by Parasyte on 05-28-04 02:51 PM) (edited by Parasyte on 05-28-04 02:52 PM) |
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Kefka Indefinitely Unbanned Level: 81 Posts: 2185/3392 EXP: 4826208 For next: 166641 Since: 03-15-04 From: Pomona, CALIFORNIA BABY! Since last post: 4 hours Last activity: 4 hours |
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Cellar Dweller, it's actually pretty easy to get Acmlmboard's source, because so many people have it. Just ask anyone who has it and they usually give it to ya. As for FuSoYa's editor... yea, I don't understand why he's so paranoid about releasing it. Look at Disch; his programs are great. And he NEVER keeps his sources secret. He practically gives them to whoever asks, unless he doesn't trust the person who asks (I'm sure if one Frenzied Panda asked him for any source, that Panda would be shot down instantly). Also, no one exactly rips off of his programs. And well, this editor has ripped off of LM so far, even though there's no actual editor yet. Maybe giving out the source means less ripping off, I dunno.  I don't see what's wrong with giving out sources. It helps people learn if anything. And btw, anyone who rips off of an innovative program usually is shot down within days. So nothing to worry about there.EDIT: Originally posted by mikepjr Oh, I usually wouldn't look at a source even if it was released, so it's not like I care too terribly much about it. It's just that I can't stand coders who are paranoid like "OMG if I release my source, all my work will be ruined and people will rip off of it OMG I have to keep it to myself not even my dog can see it he will leak it and we'll all die." That's what I have a problem with, and that's why I speak (or post, if you prefer). (edited by Kefka on 05-28-04 03:05 PM) |
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Kyoufu Kawa I'm not bad. I'm just drawn that way. Level: 70  Posts: 210/2481 EXP: 3008456 For next: 7355 Since: 03-19-04 From: Catgirl Central Since last post: 14 hours Last activity: 13 hours |
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Cellar Dweller Flurry !!! Level: 27 Posts: 59/269 EXP: 107817 For next: 8342 Since: 03-15-04 From: Arkansas Since last post: 16 days Last activity: 34 min. |
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Originally posted by knuck In the case that someone is dishonest enough to try that, the author can contact the owner of the server or their network provider to have the offending files removed or even file a lawsuit. So far, all GPL violations have been resolved out of court.
I was referring to the lamer speak that you compared my post to. Regarding AcmlmBoard, I was talking about versions newer than 1.8a. I found out about the download site back in January by reading old posts in the AcmlmBoard programming forum. |
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