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Posted on 05-18-04 02:33 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sion
If you havnt watched it yet I suggest you dont. Its just the right thing to do.


Curiosity is a wonderful thing. Few can withstand it's lure.

Originally posted by Ridley
That's so sick.....But anyway yeah I found this out a week ago.


Care to give more than that as an opinion? I'm sure everyone did find out about it a week ago, since this thread was created a week ago.

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...even if it's on people that have tortured others. Honestly it dosen't make things any better...


Oh, in that case, perhaps the World Wars might not have happened, since taking revenge on the death just doesn't make things any better then either. You can't tell a family who's lost lives to forget about it. Revenge is too powerful emotion to ignore.
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If america is smart they will pull everyone out of Iraq and say we shouldn't fight anymore since we lost o many people with almost no cause. What ever happened to Osama Bin Laden that is why we wen't over to the mid-east isn't it?
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Posted on 05-18-04 03:11 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Dracoon
If america is smart they will pull everyone out of Iraq and say we shouldn't fight anymore since we lost o many people with almost no cause. What ever happened to Osama Bin Laden that is why we wen't over to the mid-east isn't it?




I thought it was all of those Weapons of Mass Destruction that Bush flipped out about...and never found. How embarrasing.
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Posted on 05-18-04 03:27 AM Link | Quote
Does anyone know where I can get this video? (I wanna watch it but....I know i'm going to regret it)


EDIT:OMG.....I GOT IT OFF LIME WIRE.....IT IS SOO...NASTEY.....GOOD THING IT WAS BLURRY..I'M GONNA JUST CRY MY EYES OUT NOW......OMFG.....WHATEVER YOU DO....DO NOT WATCH IT.....


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(edited by Ridley on 05-17-04 06:40 PM)
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Posted on 05-18-04 04:19 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Chickenlump
Originally posted by Dracoon
If america is smart they will pull everyone out of Iraq and say we shouldn't fight anymore since we lost o many people with almost no cause. What ever happened to Osama Bin Laden that is why we wen't over to the mid-east isn't it?




I thought it was all of those Weapons of Mass Destruction that Bush flipped out about...and never found. How embarrasing.


That and the removal of a hateful dictator...which we did.

Ridley, calm the hell down. If you think that's bad you haven't seen anything yet. (On the internet, that is.)
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Posted on 05-18-04 04:45 AM Link | Quote
I actually have seen worse but getting a head chopped off with a knife???
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Posted on 05-18-04 05:16 AM Link | Quote
There is always more worse stuff... that's how things works in the world.

I didn't see any blood on the video... but even then. Seeing it one time is enough times for me...
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Posted on 05-18-04 05:39 AM Link | Quote
I've heard about this. And this proves my point. Nothing good can ever come out of revenge. First, people do it to those who "deserve" it, then the opposing side does the same, and the conflict goes on longer. For some reason, this gives people from both sides more of a reason to hate each other's countries and to attack them. This is exactly how innocent people get dragged into bloody wars. Neither one can be justified. Personally, I would not want anyone to go to hell. I cry thinking about such things. It's ETERNAL PUNISHMENT, the worst ever. I instead pray for people to redeem themselves somehow. That redemption is something only between them and God. That's also why I oppose the death penalty and torture.
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Posted on 05-18-04 06:10 AM Link | Quote
I thought even terrorists wouldn't be so brutal, talk about naive.

I know the saying goes "there's no action without reaction" but that's only true to a certain point, they went over the limit. With people constantly trying to out do each other it won't ever end.

The whole ideal of war is just idiotic nowadays, it seems too easy for the people in power to try and resolve a situation by sending their people to war. They see it as too much of an easy way out, letting someone else get their hands dirty while they enjoy the easy life. We've gone back on ourselves. Years ago if the ruler of a country felt war was the best option then they would go to war, they would lead their people and fight in the war themselves. Obviously to put yourself in that situation out of your own choosing meant that you truly believed in what you were fighting for, not that you were just sending out people that are "expendable" to get the job done for you.
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Posted on 05-18-04 09:45 PM Link | Quote
Violence only begets more violence. Its also extremly stupid....allow me to ellaborate.

A French guy kills my mother. So I take revenge on some innocent french guy who had nothing to do with anything.

I can understand revenge but this is just plain stupid. If I were to take revenge Id make sure to take revenge on the person responsible not on a person of the same race.

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Posted on 05-18-04 11:35 PM Link | Quote
I saw blood coming out of his gagging mouth. It was gross but i've downloaded a video of a lady getting shot in the head with blood splattering all over the wall behind her. Don't know if it was real.....
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Posted on 05-18-04 11:56 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Ridley
I saw blood coming out of his gagging mouth. It was gross but i've downloaded a video of a lady getting shot in the head with blood splattering all over the wall behind her. Don't know if it was real.....


I think I saw that one too. I found it on Kazaa. Was she sitting in a chair crying and saying something right when she got shot?
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Posted on 05-19-04 12:08 AM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Legion
Originally posted by Ridley
I saw blood coming out of his gagging mouth. It was gross but i've downloaded a video of a lady getting shot in the head with blood splattering all over the wall behind her. Don't know if it was real.....


I think I saw that one too. I found it on Kazaa. Was she sitting in a chair crying and saying something right when she got shot?


Yeah! She was saying something like "Slut flims do not exsist--" *BAM!*


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Posted on 05-19-04 12:09 AM Link | Quote
Yeah I saw that then. I don't know why, but I got a good feeling that it was fake. Something just didn't seem real about it. Still, it was pretty brutal. I could never understand what she said.
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Haha yeah I had a good feeling it was fake too because it kinda looks like as if someone is behind that chair splashing fake blood all over the wall.
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She must have said "Snuf flims do not exsist". Snuf films are movies of people torturing or killing others. They re mostly found on the internet and I think they are the most disgusting and morally wrong things that can be found on the net.
The move fear dot com was about snuf films.

That one was fake but there are many others that are real, and I hope I never come across any of them. Im scrarred for life watching Faces of Death.

Back to the main topic. I dont know what video you guys watched but the entire floor was covered in blood.....its was very disturbing.
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Originally posted by Legion
Yeah I saw that then. I don't know why, but I got a good feeling that it was fake. Something just didn't seem real about it. Still, it was pretty brutal. I could never understand what she said.
Hmm... when I think on it. There were no blood.

But honestly, it looks real enough. And knowing what things people can do in war... it's probably have happened.
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Posted on 05-19-04 07:09 PM Link | Quote
This is strange.....

Nick Berg decapitation video declared "a fraud" by medical doctor


The first casualty of war is the truth and this one has been no exception. La Voz de Aztlan obtained a copy of the video showing the beheading of American Nick Berg of Philadelphia and immediately something very odd was readily apparent. Not only were the purported screams of Nick Berg not in synchrony with the decapitation but their was also a total lack of blood spurting out as his jugular and other veins and arteries were being cut.

We forwarded the video to Doctor Raul Castro Guevara, a surgeon and forensic expert in Mexico City for his expert opinion. He wrote back and commented, "No hay manera que el individuo en el video estaba vivo y su corazon funcionando cuando le estaban cortando la cabeza. En estos casos, el corazon impela sangre con gran presion, y se corta las arterias del cuello, hay una gran cantidad de sangre que salpica por todos lados. En mi opinion el video es un fraude."

Doctor Raul Castro Guevara is saying that there is no way that the individual in the video was alive and his heart pumping while his neck was being cut. The doctor adds that in these cases, while the heart is pumping, cutting a person's artery in the neck, would cause copious amounts of blood to spurt all over the immediate environment. He says that in his opinion the video is a fraud.

We hope that our readers view the video and see for themselves. We will provide a copy to any of our subscribers that have been supportive of our publication. Send a request to La Voz de Aztlan at Fake_Video@Aztlan.Net

If you are able to view the video, please pay close attention to the five so called Al queda terrorists making the political statement. Look at their height, weight, skin color and their mannerisms. Do you think these people are Arabs or Iraqis?
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Posted on 05-19-04 10:56 PM Link | Quote
Originally posted by Sion
She must have said "Snuf flims do not exsist". Snuf films are movies of people torturing or killing others. They re mostly found on the internet and I think they are the most disgusting and morally wrong things that can be found on the net.
The move fear dot com was about snuf films.

That one was fake but there are many others that are real, and I hope I never come across any of them. Im scrarred for life watching Faces of Death.

Back to the main topic. I dont know what video you guys watched but the entire floor was covered in blood.....its was very disturbing.


I searched snuf films off yahoo and the only the things that come up are porn sites...
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Posted on 05-20-04 12:37 AM Link | Quote
If you want to see a good movie about snuff filmes, check out 8MM.

Oh, and you do realize Faces of Death is fake right? Just like pro wrestling.
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