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Wrath Shyguy Level: 17  Posts: 76/93 EXP: 21856 For next: 2887 Since: 03-18-04 From: Canada Since last post: 547 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| I'm getting a new computer but to tell you the truth I don't know what a good computer is.... so anyways I was hoping if someone could tell me what each thing is for and if this is a good computer... Intel Pentium 4 Processor at 3.06 GHz with 533 MHz front side bus Microsoft Windows XP Home 256MB Dual ChannelDDR SDRAMat 333MHz 17" Flatscreen CRT Monitor Integrated Intel 3D Extreme Graphics 2 16X DVD-ROM Drive 48X CD-RW Drive (2nd bay) Basically I want a computer that can run games such as Diablo 2 and work with websites which includes using photoshop. (edited by Wrath on 04-21-04 01:48 AM) |
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Kazooie074 Goomba Level: 9  Posts: 17/24 EXP: 2873 For next: 289 Since: 03-15-04 From: Littleton, Colorado Since last post: 108 days Last activity: 108 days |
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| Ok, let's go over this: 1. Intel Pentium 4 Processor at 3.06 GHz - Pretty good, although a computers "goodness" level is not measured by the processor alone. 2. 256MB Dual ChannelDDR SDRAMat 333MHz - Uh, you're going to want more. Thankfully, that wouldn't be a huge problem. 3. 17" Flatscreen CRT Monitor - ...better than a non-flatscreen 17" monitor. Just keep in mind that it's a flat-screen, not flatpanel (super thin monitor). 4. Integrated Intel 3D Extreme Graphics 2 - This is, without a doubt, the biggest problem with the entire package. If you want to play any of the big name games coming out, you'll need to upgrade and get an actual video card. 5. 16X DVD-ROM Drive & 48X CD-RW Drive (2nd bay) - Just fine. Is there anyone in your house that's computer-knowledgeable? If so, that person can help you to increase your RAM and get a real video card. If not, then you'll have to look into it and learn about it yourself. And with regards to the video card, if you don't have AGP slots on your motherboard, then forget it. But I think it'll have no problem running Diablo 2. I was running it on an Intel Pentium 4 2.2GHz and with those "Integrated Onboard Extreme 3D graphics" crap or whatever, and it was just fine. Was this ordered online? If so, can you provide the link? We can look into that whole AGP thing for you. (My Dell Pentium 4 2.2GHz did NOT have AGP slots, so don't count on it.) (edited by Kazooie074 on 04-21-04 10:45 AM) |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 454/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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| Looks pretty good, but I have some suggestions... 1) Get XP Pro. Home sucks a lot. 2) Integrated video = teh suck, especially by Intel. 3) More RAM would be a good idea if you plan to run really high-end games or a lot of stuff at once (which includes really big images or images with a LOT of layers in Photoshop). |
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Wrath Shyguy Level: 17 Posts: 77/93 EXP: 21856 For next: 2887 Since: 03-18-04 From: Canada Since last post: 547 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| Thanks for the reply and I found these comps in a paper that was sent to our house anyways you can upgrade the video card to a '128 MB DDR NVIDIA GeForce FX5200 Grapics Card with TV-Out and DVI' for an extra $35 would that be better then the original and would it be able to basically run games without trouble? | |||
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kitty Come on babe, pet the pussy ;) Level: 70 Posts: 708/2449 EXP: 2962406 For next: 53405 Since: 03-15-04 From: Scranton, PA, USA Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| It would be well worth the $35 to get that video card. As for playing any new games, no. HL2 or Doom3 are out of the question. Of course, even the Intel onboard shit can play Diablo II but anything made within the last 2-3 years can play a non-3D game like that. If the ONLY game you want to play is Diablo II that's good enough, but if you're looking at real games like GTA, Battlefield, Halo, UT, or Mafia (which is getting popular on the PC again since its console release), then you'll need more. If you want to play an upcoming title like HalfLife2, or Doom 3, you'll need to follow suggestions in the other video card thread. As for the processor and RAM, ehhh... A 533MHz FSB P4 3.06 without Hyperthreading is far slower than a much cheaper AMD Athlon XP 3200+, and NO Pentium4 can even hold a candle to the Athlon64's. I highly suggest AMD systems because they perform much better for much less cash. 256MB dual channel DDR333 means you get 2 128MB sticks of PC2700. This SUCKS. I don't know hoe many dimm slots the machine has but it will NOT be over 4, which means that if you want a CHEAP upgrade, the best you can do is another 2x 128MB sticks for $40, and if you want to upgrade in the future, you'll need to throw them away. I suggest at LEAST 512MB in ANY dual-channel form. Edit: And unless you plan on doing something like dual processing, Home edition is fine (which brings up a point: NEVER buy a Hyperthreading CPU with WinXP Home, it's the dumbest thing ever. The hyperthreading is loaded like a 2nd CPU, and Home will not support it, thus meaning your advantage is wasted). (edited by Yiffy Kitten on 04-21-04 05:30 PM) |
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Wrath Shyguy Level: 17 Posts: 78/93 EXP: 21856 For next: 2887 Since: 03-18-04 From: Canada Since last post: 547 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Originally posted by Yiffy Kitten Alright after reading your post I've went from a $799 computer to the third most expensive in the paper, the $1299 computer. I'll list the shit that comes with this one and according to the paper I'm reading this computer is made for 'intense gaming' and 'graphics'. Intel pentium 4 processor with HT technology at 3.0GHz with 800MHz front side bus - Thats good according to what all you are saying Microsoft Windows XP Professional 512 MB Dual Channel DDR SDRAM at 400MHz - And I assume this is better accoridng to what Yiffy Kitten said  120GB SATA hard drive (7200 RPM) 128 MB DDR NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Graphics Card with TV-Out and DVI So would this computer be able to play the newer games as well or am I still fucked and need to upgrade....  |
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HyperLamer <||bass> and this was the soloution i thought of that was guarinteed to piss off the greatest amount of people Sesshomaru Tamaranian Level: 118 Posts: 470/8210 EXP: 18171887 For next: 211027 Since: 03-15-04 From: Canada, w00t! LOL FAD Since last post: 2 hours Last activity: 2 hours |
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I wish I had a computer like that.  (Yeah, it's pretty good.  ) |
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Wrath Shyguy Level: 17 Posts: 79/93 EXP: 21856 For next: 2887 Since: 03-18-04 From: Canada Since last post: 547 days Last activity: 339 days |
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Alright then it's settled for $44 a month I will be getting this computer  To all who replied to this thread I say thank you and now I must go order my new computer. |
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tinzeee Permaban Repeated warnings and bannings about stupidity Level: 38  Posts: 519/618 EXP: 369695 For next: 752 Since: 04-02-04 From: Australia - Sydney Since last post: 553 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| Intel Pentium 4 Processor at >3.06 GHz< Instead of getting 3.06 i would go for more space |
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Kazooie074 Goomba Level: 9 Posts: 19/24 EXP: 2873 For next: 289 Since: 03-15-04 From: Littleton, Colorado Since last post: 108 days Last activity: 108 days |
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Originally posted by tinzeee |
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Error Red Paragoomba Level: 13  Posts: 19/54 EXP: 9430 For next: 837 Since: 04-16-04 Since last post: 540 days Last activity: 339 days |
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| Space is over-rated.. I have 340+ gigs and I doubt I will EVER fill it all up. | |||
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Jizuko Jiz Is The Magic! This board has run out of mana and can no longer use The Magic Level: 51  Posts: 204/1191 EXP: 1004683 For next: 9255 Since: 03-15-04 Since last post: 230 days Last activity: 213 days |
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| I would never pick Intel. Yiffy Kitten said it too, AMD is much better for much less cash. My AMD can run almost the latest games (Halo for example, but on lowgraphics and 800x600) and I've had it for 2years or so now and I even got a shitty Geforce2 mx200 32mb. And who the hells picks up WinXP with the comp package? You just burn it for christsakes. I'd also pick an ATI graphics card rather than Geforce, cheaper and most of the times better. |
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Cyrus Bee Level: 21  Posts: 37/153 EXP: 45975 For next: 3968 Since: 03-22-04 From: Malaysia Since last post: 291 days Last activity: 224 days |
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| Wrath... try to get someone that knows a lot about computer to help you pick up separate parts... Usually, package computer sucks And try to wait for event like PC fair or something similar so you can get powerful yet cheap computer parts |
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kitty Come on babe, pet the pussy ;) Level: 70 Posts: 715/2449 EXP: 2962406 For next: 53405 Since: 03-15-04 From: Scranton, PA, USA Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| Wrath: It still sucks ass. The 5200 Ultra is the worst part of it. A P4 2.4GHz w/o Hyperthreading and with a 533 Bus would anihilate that system if it had a GeForce4 Ti, Radeon 9600 Pro, etc! | |||
mrmenz Slime Level: 30 Posts: 42/347 EXP: 157982 For next: 7887 Since: 03-15-04 From: USA/PA Since last post: 8 hours Last activity: 39 days |
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| I play games like Battlefiled, halo, and morrowind damn near perfect on my (cant get totally specific I forget most things and Are too lazy too look them up) 1.20 Ghz celeron processor 1200mhz 384 mb of ram (x1 256 PC133 and x1 128mb stick ) Geforce FX 5200 128mb DDR RAM 20 GIG HD (i forget RPM and brand) I know this is a lamer PC and I plan on building a new one very soon but ive really never had too much trouble with it. |
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kitty Come on babe, pet the pussy ;) Level: 70 Posts: 813/2449 EXP: 2962406 For next: 53405 Since: 03-15-04 From: Scranton, PA, USA Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 3 hours |
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| If you can play BF and Halo, I'd probably not call it "Damn near perfect myself - you probably run: 640x480, 16-bit color, and get terrible framerates, or even higher and get well under 10FPS; Low-quality textures Low distance settings Etc etc... in other words, stuff I wouldn't be able to tolerate! |
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theclaw Red Cheep-cheep Level: 24  Posts: 49/202 EXP: 69367 For next: 8758 Since: 03-28-04 From: USA Since last post: 21 hours Last activity: 7 min. |
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| AMD Athlon XP 1.1ghz 256mb ram 8gb & 20gb HDs CD-RW drive & DVD drive 17" CRT monitor - non-flat screen Windows XP Pro 32mb system ram shared for video (my 128mb geforce fx 5200 PCI isn't installed) This should be faster than the 3 3/4 year old P3 500mhz brick, but I'm not sure how much. The main goal here was to increase speed at a low cost without reformatting (N64 emulation also). I already own KOTOR and Halo on Xbox, don't worry about that. Any suggestions for games? Ones that require both the keyboard and mouse to be moved at the same time are tough for me. Simple controls are a must. Tron 2.0 looks interesting though. Being normally a console gamer (especially GCN), not many PC titles are worth playing more than once IMO. I usually end up just leaving them all over the place. |
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ErkDog Fuzz Ball Level: 47  Posts: 195/982 EXP: 752190 For next: 14013 Since: 03-15-04 From: Richmond, VA Since last post: 40 days Last activity: 19 days |
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| you definitelyl need to grab 512M of ram instead of 256M as well | |||
Kitten Yiffer Purple wand Furry moderator Vivent l'exp����¯�¿�½������©rience de signalisation d'amusement, ou bien ! Level: 135 Posts: 1472/11162 EXP: 28824106 For next: 510899 Since: 03-15-04 From: Sweden Since last post: 3 hours Last activity: 4 min. |
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Originally posted by ErkDogI still don't get it why they still sell computers with 256 Megabytes of RAM. Sometimes I have been considiring getting even more memory becuse 512M of ram isn't enough sometimes even for me. I hate it when the computer uses the swap file to much. Originally posted by theclawSimcity 4 comes to mind, but you must have a powerful computer for that game... |
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ErkDog Fuzz Ball Level: 47 Posts: 198/982 EXP: 752190 For next: 14013 Since: 03-15-04 From: Richmond, VA Since last post: 40 days Last activity: 19 days |
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| well even if you did have 1 gig of ram you'd still end up using swap.... mostly because if a program is really inactive it just gets shoved to swap so windows uses the memory as a "file cache" cause it -thinks- it makes your computer faster, and in most cases it does help... but I'd just assume force all programs into main memory at all times, and have a lower file cache |
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